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Update: progesterone for dry eyes

Started by Maria3667, November 27, 2018, 04:04:24 AM

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Maria3667

Hi everyone,

Have I been barking up the wrong tree the whole time? I've been a strong advocate for low dose Dhea (2,5 mgs, preferably sublingual / intravaginal) to increase mouth & eye moisture. Which worked -  until menopause hit me.

Last month my eyes were so painfully infected I was prepared to drink horse pee! Fortunately it didn't come to that as I dug up a scientific paper from 2007 claiming progesterone rubs on the eyelids 2x daily can treat eye inflammation.

I tried testosterone, estriol and Dhea cream, but had never seen progesterone mentioned. When I woke up last Wednesday morning I immediately felt a stark difference. My eyes didn't stick or hurt!

Gradually the improvement amplified; the cornea is finally healing & now I rarely grab eye drops.

Progesterone is plausible, as all hormones dwindle in menopause. But I sure wish I'd known sooner!

54. DES-daughter ('67), Lyme's ('98), GAD ('98), Sjogren's ('02) - changed to Sicca ('20), hypothyroid ('04), endometriosis ('14), osteoarthritis ('16), blepharitis & MGD ('18), Pilocarpine, thyroid meds, 12.5mg quetiapine. Allergies: sodium hydroxide, nickle, methylisothiazolinone, latex

Sharon

I have also suspected that Progesterone is key, but Progesterone cream that I used didn't make a difference for my eyes.
I did only use it at night though.
Maybe I wasn't using the right one?
Which type of Progesterone did you use?
Sjogren's (+ RA): positive ANA, RNP, RNP-A, APCA. Severe eye dryness + inflammation, multiple sensitivities and allergic reactions, fatigue. 
ORENCIA, Restasis, Anti-inflammatory diet, Vit. D & C, Ubiquinol 100mg, Omega 3....

Maria3667

#2
Hi Sharon,

Like I posted in the paramount study about hormones before, it's probably due to their interaction. Like an orchestra playing together.

As I also take a pinprick of transdermal testosterone, 2.5 mgs of Dhea and a 1/4 tablet 2x weekly of Livial, I suspect progesterone is the missing ingredient (or musical conductor, lol... ).

The brand I use is Pro-Gest (natural progesterone, by Emerita). I apply on upper and lower eyelids at dawn & night. I'm truly amazed at the beneficial effect.

Study: https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2382585

54. DES-daughter ('67), Lyme's ('98), GAD ('98), Sjogren's ('02) - changed to Sicca ('20), hypothyroid ('04), endometriosis ('14), osteoarthritis ('16), blepharitis & MGD ('18), Pilocarpine, thyroid meds, 12.5mg quetiapine. Allergies: sodium hydroxide, nickle, methylisothiazolinone, latex

Sharon

That's the same one I used  :)
How wonderful that you've found relief!
I think I'll try the cream again with the instructions you suggested.
Sjogren's (+ RA): positive ANA, RNP, RNP-A, APCA. Severe eye dryness + inflammation, multiple sensitivities and allergic reactions, fatigue. 
ORENCIA, Restasis, Anti-inflammatory diet, Vit. D & C, Ubiquinol 100mg, Omega 3....

Deseree

I've heard some great things about progesterone for dryness, glad it worked for you!
30 year old female. Mildly positive ANA and RF. Positive markers on Early Sjogren's blood test. Negative Ss-A/Ss-B. Dry mouth, nose, throat, and eyes. Currently taking generic Evoxac.

bluegardenia

60,primary sjs, diverticulosis,ibs,atrioventricular blocks 2 degree first type, acid reflux.
omeoprazole, vit c, flack seed, omega 3, b complex, nac,systane ultra, pineapple seeds

Maria3667

Hi Blue,

Well, it was some time ago. I don't think I got it from Amazon; probably just a regular website.

Good luck!
54. DES-daughter ('67), Lyme's ('98), GAD ('98), Sjogren's ('02) - changed to Sicca ('20), hypothyroid ('04), endometriosis ('14), osteoarthritis ('16), blepharitis & MGD ('18), Pilocarpine, thyroid meds, 12.5mg quetiapine. Allergies: sodium hydroxide, nickle, methylisothiazolinone, latex

Sharon

Sjogren's (+ RA): positive ANA, RNP, RNP-A, APCA. Severe eye dryness + inflammation, multiple sensitivities and allergic reactions, fatigue. 
ORENCIA, Restasis, Anti-inflammatory diet, Vit. D & C, Ubiquinol 100mg, Omega 3....

bluegardenia

60,primary sjs, diverticulosis,ibs,atrioventricular blocks 2 degree first type, acid reflux.
omeoprazole, vit c, flack seed, omega 3, b complex, nac,systane ultra, pineapple seeds

Carolina

Thank you,Maria,

I just ordered Pro-Gest from Amazon.

Hope I have some relief and I will keep you all posted!

Regards, Elaine
Female-Elaine,83-CVID-pSJS-WMD (Eylea)-COPD-Inter. Cys-PN-CAD-Osteoarth-SFN-Erythromelalgia-SIBO-PMR-Adrenal Insufficiency-Hearing Loss-Achalasia-Bacteriurea-Power Chair-IVIG Gamunex 50 gm-Medrol-Wellbutrin-Buspar-Gabapentin-Atenolol-Salagen-LDN-Lipitor-Premarin-Nexium-Om.3-Repatha-KLOR-CON-Maxide

Maria3667

#10
You're welcome everyone  ;D.  Hope it pays off for all of us trying this natural progesterone cream.

I forgot to mention that for the first 3 or 4 days I applied it up to 4x daily to get the glands going again. I have now reduced to 2x, but I feel I need 3x (unpractical, because that requires an extra application at lunchtime when I'm at the office wearing eye make up - progesterone eye drops would be easier).

My dryness is exacerbated by quetiapine which I use as an anxiolytic and sleep aid.

Keen to learn your results! Please keep us posted!
54. DES-daughter ('67), Lyme's ('98), GAD ('98), Sjogren's ('02) - changed to Sicca ('20), hypothyroid ('04), endometriosis ('14), osteoarthritis ('16), blepharitis & MGD ('18), Pilocarpine, thyroid meds, 12.5mg quetiapine. Allergies: sodium hydroxide, nickle, methylisothiazolinone, latex

Lotus1

Thanks so much for sharing Maria3667.

I may ask my hormone dr if it can be made up at the compounding chemist.
What strength is the progesterone cream please?

I use natural hrt & my body loves progesterone!!

I'm feeling hopeful......

Lotus1


araminta

Have any more of you tried this yet?   I'm considering getting the Pro Gest but wondered if there were any more good news stories.
Dry eyes (MGD), nose, mouth, occasional labyrinthitis,  dry skin , mouth ulcers, constant but fluctuating fatigue, IBS.  Blood tests and Schirmers negative,no Sjogrens dx yet.   Omega 3 algal oil, multivitamins, Evolve eye drops, Xailin eye ointment,  moisturiser (Instituto Espanol 10% urea).

Maria3667

#13
Hi Araminta,

Been on a tiny amount of Pro-Gest for 1 month now. The effects are impressive! Eye moisture is almost back to normal  :D

There's 1 snafu: after a year's absence my period returned! How can such a tiny amount (1/2 a green pea) have this effect?

Also, saliva flow & mouth burning have improved!
54. DES-daughter ('67), Lyme's ('98), GAD ('98), Sjogren's ('02) - changed to Sicca ('20), hypothyroid ('04), endometriosis ('14), osteoarthritis ('16), blepharitis & MGD ('18), Pilocarpine, thyroid meds, 12.5mg quetiapine. Allergies: sodium hydroxide, nickle, methylisothiazolinone, latex

araminta

Thanks Maria, very glad you're getting good help with this.   I might give progesterone another go.   I tried it before without much noticeable difference, but never on eyelids.
Dry eyes (MGD), nose, mouth, occasional labyrinthitis,  dry skin , mouth ulcers, constant but fluctuating fatigue, IBS.  Blood tests and Schirmers negative,no Sjogrens dx yet.   Omega 3 algal oil, multivitamins, Evolve eye drops, Xailin eye ointment,  moisturiser (Instituto Espanol 10% urea).