Is it our Gov't, check this out. Chemtrails.

[topping21]

I talked to a very close relative last night that works with the our federal government nuclear program and he was telling my that my Sjogrens is probaly from our own government doing stuff that we dont even know about.  He there is a operation called "project Clover leaf" (Chemtrails) he said it is damaging our populations immune system to the point where alot of people are getting alot of diseases and syndroms at an alarming rate.

I did some research on it today and it seems pretty legit.   I dont want to post links put you can google it and see for yourself. 

[Scottietottie]

Hi 

So saying - Sjogren's Syndrome has been around for a lot longer than the government programmes. Our immune systems are over active rather than damaged.

Take care - Scottie 

[mshistory]

What websites did you look at that seemed legitimate? I Googled it and all that came up were conspiracy theorist type websites.

I do think our enviornment can play a role in the development of autoimmune disease, and it's no secret that private corporations have been polluting our enviornment for decades - I will definitely point a finger at our government for not doing more to control harmful emissions and run-off. But this sounds a little too Area 51 for me 

[cargillwitch]

when all else fails- blame the government! LOL.

Not sure whose federal government you are pointing fingers at ( I believe we are from nations gracing all over the globe here) but I do know that I have sjogrens. My mother has sjogrens and although they was never diagnosed ( do to the time periods they lived in)  both my grandmother and greatgrandmother all had tell tale signs of sjogrens syndrome( lung involvement,RA, horrid dry eyes extensive early tooth decay,etc..)

A whole pile of political parties and their leaders came and went during these time periods.

I do agree our immune systems are not really in overdrive per se they are indeed flawed -our military police aren't doing their job and we are being felled by friendly fire.

[Joe S.]

Warning Conspiracy post.

Definition: A conspiracy is when one or more people/organizations get together to take advantage of one or more persons.

My PTSD is from the VA when I was recalled in 1983 to spend a year with the "Montauk Project". The Montauk Project was a spin off of "Project Rainbow" (1943). The Psy-Tronics projects of 1963 were also a spin off from Project Rainbow.

HAARP was written up in Popular Electronics magazine in the early 1960's. At this same time there was a lot of articles on Electromagnet interference EMI and its effects on biological systems. A lot of devices were developed to block EMI. More recently GWEN was developed and implemented through out the USA. When a GWEN project station is turned on near a friends farm, the animals get hostile and attack each other. When the out door resonate towers are turned on they become calm and loving. There are "control" signals paced on the local power lines that can be viewed with an oscilloscope.

Now a "Fantasy" about auto immune diseases.
During WWII a doctor at a Japanese POW camp experimented with "L-form or Nano bacteria". He found that it takes two of these to create and AI disease in his POW's. He was looking for a way to spread them near the end of WWII. He defected to China and looked into using chicken pox to spread his AI disease. When he died, his assistant defected to the USA (1963). The Military was in charge of project. The CDC was used to tract the spread of disease. Poisons like cadmium were disbursed on populations at Christmas time as well as the nano bacteria. They were not covering a large enough area. Chemtrails were used to expand the distribution in the hope that people would become immune to these diseases.

Our Government would never do anything like this to its people and those of other nations would it?

[jazzlover]

Read Lab 257 .. how Lyme disease was spread with the help of our government. Plum Island nightmare.

[susanep]

I don't even know what to say about some of this, but what can any of us do? Please don't get me wrong, I will never push my beliefs on anyone, but I personally look to God, because I don't trust what is before us in this world.

I do the best I can which isn't much, but I really turn it over to God, because I choose to believe he is in control in the end.

My post can be removed if need be. Sorry what any of us have had to go through. I care about all of you.

susanep

[Seeker]

G'day all.  There are a lot of conspiracies (so called), that could be (or are) happening.  Take your pick.  To me it is interesting to research them.  Are any of them real?  That is something each individual needs to decide for themselves.  Good Hunting.

Seeker   

[Joe S.]

Seeker, if you are looking for one down under, check on the number of people that were paralyzed from the waste down by mylograms in your country. Over 200,000 in your country and your country broke the news internationally about the change in contrast dye to sulfuric acid that burned the nerves of the spine.

No track of number in the US.

[Seeker]

I'll look into it Joe. Thank you for your suggestion.

Seeker

[eye2dry]

OH MY !!!

[jazzlover]

Seeker, if you are looking for one down under, check on the number of people that were paralyzed from the waste down by mylograms in your country. Over 200,000 in your country and your country broke the news internationally about the change in contrast dye to sulfuric acid that burned the nerves of the spine.

No track of number in the US.

do you mean from a heart catheterization? I know someone that happened to .. in the US. She died about 3-4 yrs later. She was only in her early 60's.

[CathyO]

And a tie in with LSD, and the CIA actually doing testing on human subjects without their consent. Saw it on an episode on the Science Channel.  They say it's true.. who knows?  Back to the Botox and botulism, I just don't trust that in my body!


http://science.discovery.com/stories/mkultra.html

[Joe S.]

A mylogram is where they put a needle at the base of your spine, pull out a little fluid and inject a contrasting dye. The contrasting dye was changed to include sulfuric acid for better contrast in metals. It was clearly labeled not for human use. When it got to Europe the labels were removed and it was shipped around the world. Even back into the USA. People that had this test done were paralyzed from the waist down. I did not end up in wheel chair like most did. it took me about 5 years to learn to walk. Swim, skip, run, and jump are not with in my ability.

[Seeker]

Not to mention the problems caused by Doctors botching the insertion of the neddle to the correct target area.