any herbs or natural anti depressents out there that dont dry us out?

[valene2009]

i was just curious if anyone took anything 'natural' such as herbs for their mood?  years ago i took st. johns wort but i wasnt sick at the time and wasnt on any meds... i cannot tolerate cymbalta and was told by my doc that if it dried me out as bad as it did all of the other ones would as well..  now i am wondering if i went the 'hollistic" way???

[Joe S.]

The 10khz tone on this link will release endorphins in you body. http://www.chakraforce.com/LEDlist.html#Obesity I know it says obesity but it is for endorphin release.

"Feeling good" by David Burns has Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) exercises for depression.

Val, Please, please, please see a doctor. Depression is a very, very serious health challenge.

[jazzlover]

Xango mangosteen is a pretty good anti-depressant.. expensive though.

[valene2009]

im seeing a psychologist.. and thanks Joe for those links.  i am working on cognitive therapy with my therapist but i would like to do more..thank you

[valene2009]

thanks toyou too Jazzlover.. i will research that one

[Joe S.]

The 10kHz tone releases endorphins if you have them. I used them to demo the effects of frequencies in presentations that I do. I watch people with very sad and depressed looks on their face, start to smile, giggle and laugh. They also work good on pain management.

I had one elderly couple come to a presentation with her in a wheel chair. She used the handholds for 15 minutes and started to giggle. Her husband started to cry. I found their son and he told me that his dad was crying because that was the first time in over a decade that she had shown any emotion.

[KellyG999]

Joe - I have been listening to some of these based on my ailments. I'd like to know more. My mind can't grasp how this would work...

I use a very low dose of Zoloft for depression and anxiety. It is the only one that didn't dry me out something ferocious. And I tried Savella, Cymbalta and Lyrica.

[Joe S.]

Are you old enough to remember the old memorex commercial where the singer hits the note and the glass shatters. That is basically how it works. For more detail, a parasite is appears as a series resonate circuit on a spectrum analyzer. So when you are sending the kill frequency the parasite blows like a fuze.

Most of the frequencies have been know for decades, since the development of AC power. A lot of experimentation was developed in the 1920's-1950's. The uses of sounds date back many centuries BC. Tingsha bells, gongs, and singing bowls have actually been used for millennium.

Advanced chemistry courses are now starting to use frequency as a catalyst for making and breaking chemical bonds. Infrared spectrometry has been used to analyze chemical compounds so has nuclear magnetic resonance. The MRI diagnostic tool that so many doctors and patients put their faith in uses Fast Fourier Transforms (FFT) to convert these resonance into images. I had to analyze these circuits in one of my projects. Your ultra sound works on the abortion and reflection of the ultra sound frequency and the FFT to generate the image. I understand if you do not understand the electronics that makes this possible. I also understand if you view this technology as a form of magic. Most people that do not understand radio and TV but use them, view them as magic.

[KellyG999]

Joe - that actually helps. Thank you!

[Carebear]

Hi Val,

I used to suffer from depression myself, and I did the following to help my mood:

1.  high doses of niacin (vitamin B3)
2.  light therapy (using a light box)
3.  exercise
4.  regular testing of my thyroid (I have found it fluctuates a lot since SJS entered my life)
5.  cognitive therapy (as you are using as well)

I hope this helps. 

[Fairykissez]

When I was 13 I was dx with major depressive disorder (MDD) nothing they gave me helped or had horrible side effects. When my latest flare started I had some major anxiety and depression. I tried celexa and had a flushing reaction and I was just done with antidepressants. My TMJ specialist told me about this little machine called alpha stim. It uses electricity to correct balance in the brain. Its not cheep, I think $800 but my insurance paid for it. I been using it for a few months and its been a miracle for me. I have not had a full blown panic attack since I started using it and my depression is about 80% better and continues to improve.

Its worth looking into, I didnt believe it would work at first, but I am so happy I tried it...and no side effects!!

[Maria3667]

Hi Valene,

In Europe we can get Valdoxan (Agomelatine) = an anti-depressant. For me it improves saliva a little... And greatly improves sleep.

Hope this helps!

Maria

[Joe S.]

Carebear, thanks for reminding me of those options.

The alpha-stim looks to be a type of TENS unit.

[gurs]

There are also several natural products on the market in your local health food store...

SAM-E, St. Johns Wort, Holy Basil,, you just have to make sure they wont interfere with any of your med's. There are a ton of them out
there..I would check with a good health food store and see what they might recommend.

Gursie

[Maria3667]

Hi Gurs,

I've tried all of those you listed.... Worked absolutely zilch for me... I was so disappointed, had a hard time getting SAMe and when I could finally lay my hands on it... I found it to be an expensive hoax...

Recently I stumbled on some info which might explain depression/anxiety in Sjoggies... Could be due to disrupted GABA-synthethis according to some studies...
Inversely this is the reason why tranquilizers like Valium and Librium have a strong calming effect because they work by stimulating the brain's receptors for GABA.

So I suspect herbs are not strong enough to avail GABA-synthesis.

There are also several natural products on the market in your local health food store...

SAM-E, St. Johns Wort, Holy Basil,, you just have to make sure they wont interfere with any of your med's. There are a ton of them out
there..I would check with a good health food store and see what they might recommend.

Gursie