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Started by gardenlover, April 15, 2012, 07:17:23 AM

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gardenlover

Can anyone recommend a chart online that outlines a rotation diet? I've read in a lot of sources that with "leaky gut" it is important to avoid overconsuming any foods as there is a potential for new allergies to develop.  (The immune system is responsible for protecting the body from foreign substances.  When it encounters undigested particles of food in the blood stream--from leaky gut--it may interpret them as being foreign substances and react protectively, stimulating an immune reaction.  The body then becomes sensitized to this food substance and, in some cases, may have an allergic response the next time it encounters that food.  What I'm finding is that since I've had to eliminate so much from my diet, it is hard to rotate the foods.  Does anyone have a sample of a diet that basically follows an anti-candida diet with absolutely no fruit?

cargillwitch

there are some books that help- I had a friend some years back who's son had to follow a rotational diet and I remember her having several books she utilized until she was able to do it herself.

I also did a 4 month" no fruit" regimen and candida cleanse last fall. Really hard as i LOVE fruit but it made a huge difference in all the vaginal yeast and oral thrush I was having. Also settled my GI down. I had never thought of fruit as something one should be conscious of ( I was always espousing additional fruit consumption to clients!).
I have incorporated limited fruit back now- no more than 15 grams of fructose a day( about an apple's worth) and I seem to tolerate it okay.
Hope you are able to see some improvement!
47 female, Sjogrens ,Raynauds,degenerative disc disease.Rheumatoid Arthritis, gastroparesis.

gardenlover

Thanks, if you think of the names of any of the books, please let me know.

Winnie

According to my naturopathic doc, I have a leaky gut also.  Foods that I was eating to replace gluten are now high on the allergy list.  I googled leaky gut rotation diet and found out that you need to eat something one day and not eat it again until day 4. Let me know if you find out more.  Some things seem simple to me but like milk and soy is in everything, I am not sure how to put that on a rotation. I am not sure I will be going back to my naturopath.  My gastro has a different opinion and doesn't believe in leaky gut.  I have eliminated dairy and eggs and have not been constipated since. 

Winnie
Sicca Syndrome-Aug 11', osteopenia, IBS-C, gastritis, GERD
Plaquenil, Dexilant, Vit D, Calcium, gluten free, dairy, egg & nut intolerances

Sooki

I have found, by trial-and-error, foods that create inflammation in me (for me, it's gluten, dairy, soy, peanuts, chocolate, and caffeine and to a lesser extent, most grains and refined sugars).  When I mistakenly eat gluten, I react to it no matter how long it has been since I've eaten it.  But if I eat it again the next day, the response is much worse.

That said, I haven't found any problems with regularly eating the foods I don't react to.  So I, personally, haven't found any relief from rotation.  But everybody is different and it's good to try different eating regimes to find one that's good for you.

Food blogs with a lot of ACD recipes include: dietdessertndogs.com, urbanposer.blogspot.com, simplysugarandglutenfree.com.  These sites usually include links to other like-minded sites.  Another all-purpose sugarfree site is: thespunkycoconut.com.   Balancedplatter.com is a compilation of blogsites covering allergen-free and whole-food recipes.

Sugar and starch free helps a lot with candida.  And don't forget Joe's tones for candida - easy to try and free (3 mins each frequency) - www.chakraforce.com/LEDlist.html  They seem to help.

You might also check the books and sites on paleo diet recipes.
68 yo, Sjogren's, Lupus, Hashimoto's, fatigue, MGUS, peripheral neuropathy, ocular rosacea
Plaquenil, CellCept, Synthroid, Atorvastatin, Xiidra, doxycycline, D3, biotin, B12, ALA, DHEA, Ubiquinol, CPAP, D-mannose, Paleo AIP, fish oil, Cliradex wipes

gardenlover

Thanks Sooki, I'll check these out!  It is certainly a hard thing to follow.  I was already gluten and dairy free, but now I can basically just eat green veggies, chicken, eggs, limited grians, lemon, salmon.  It really stinks!!  And the doc things it will have to be like this for at least 6 months.  Yuck!  Today I tried making an avocado smoothie and I was able to drink it, but certainly not my favourite thing in the world!!  I'm such a chocolate lover!!  And I really miss fruit...I usually had 2-3 pieces a day.

jazzlover

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Quote from: gardenlover on April 15, 2012, 07:17:23 AM
What I'm finding is that since I've had to eliminate so much from my diet, it is hard to rotate the foods.  Does anyone have a sample of a diet that basically follows an anti-candida diet with absolutely no fruit?
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I have the same problem... I barely have enough choices of food I can eat... so what in the world would I rotate TO?? I'm sugar, dairy and gluten free.

note to Winnie.. most GI doctors are stupid about the gut .. at least mine is. Worthless, since he doesn't believe in Candida.
Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS), Salicylate Sensitivity,  Interstitial Cystitis,  gluten intolerance, Raynaud's, Sjogren's, A-fib; cytomegalovirus, mycoplasma,  recovered from Lyme disease

Sooki

#7
Gardenlover - that does sound like a restricted diet.  I hope you feel better for it!  I'd have a hard time giving up beans and nuts along with the fruit.  (There's great quiche crust and crackers made from garbanzo and almond flour)  I would have to change my diet altogether. 

If you can eat ginger, whole lemon and ginger root can add some pizazz to green smoothies.  Oh, here's another idea for a creamy-ish sauce, although it sounds implausible:  cut up zucchini into chunks and put in a glass baking dish with peeled garlic and little olive oil (or skip it if you have to).  Bake for 1 1/2 hours at 350 degrees until tender. Then puree the heck out of it in the blender until it's kind of whipped.  I hesitate to say cheeze sauce sub, but it can go on veggies and be more filling.  This is from thedailydietribe.com, another good food blog.  thedailydietribe.com/2011/08/gluten-free-dairy-free-tomato-free-nut.html

Hang in there and keep us posted.
68 yo, Sjogren's, Lupus, Hashimoto's, fatigue, MGUS, peripheral neuropathy, ocular rosacea
Plaquenil, CellCept, Synthroid, Atorvastatin, Xiidra, doxycycline, D3, biotin, B12, ALA, DHEA, Ubiquinol, CPAP, D-mannose, Paleo AIP, fish oil, Cliradex wipes

gardenlover

Yes, it is very restricted, but seems to be making a difference already.  My head doesn't seem as "cloudy".  Perhaps this dr. really knows what he is doing?  Six months or so of this seems a bit extreme to kill off the yeast though.  He is also ordering a lot of tests (most of which have not been done yet...most of which I have no idea what they mean):
CK, albumin, protein (total),alkaline phosphatase, bilirubil (total), bilirubin (indirect), gamma GT, ALT (SGPT), AST (SGOT), LD, Iron, TIBC, % Fe Saturation, Profile, Auto Diff, ESR, Vitamin B12, folate, ferritin, anti-cardiolipin Ab, anti-neutrophil (anti-MPO, PR3), ANA (dsDNA, Chrom, RiboP, SS-A, SS-B, Cent B, Sm, RNP, Sm/RNP, Scl-70, Jo-1), Anti-smooth muscle Ab, Anti-Tissue Transglutaminase, Anti-Glomerular Basement...

I've had 2 ANAs done before (one postive in 2010, one negative in 2011).  ANYWAY...

I'm going to try those smothies and things you mentioned above and I've bookmarked the webpages suggested.  Thanks!!  I wish I could eat almond because I used to use almond milk in everything pretty well. After the first 15 days, I can have rice so probably can get rice milk back.  That will be good.  I've also heard there is something called Ghee (a sub. I can use for butter I hope in baking).  My husband is very supportive and has been searching for recipies.  All day yesterday he was cooking things up trying to find something that is good.  I love fish, chicken, and eggs so that is not an issue.  I just hate cutting out fruit and veggies that aren't green.  Not a fan of cucumber and peppers are off the list right now, so salads are...pretty much lettuce.  Oh well, things could be worse. 
Thanks

prunella

Helpful discussion on so many levels!  As I sit here drinking AM coffee with soy milk, I have been planning to plant lettuce and kale today.  We are having a wonderful warm spell and the garden calls me. But, of course, I have limited energy and I've been eating limited amounts of fresh veggies, as advised by naturopath.

Not quite on the original topic, but some ideas about how to cope with the limited diets many of us try to maintain.  The leaky gut concept seems plausible to me.  Despite eliminating all sorts of foods, I can have unpredicted "unfortunate" digestive reactions to foods I thought I could eat.

Me current life:
No dairy, no wheat, very limited  sugars. No meat or poultry. If anyone tells me to give up soy, chocolate or almonds, I will totally freak.  I use honey, maple syrup, or agave in the bitter chocolate foods that I seem to require.  :D
Have been lucky not to have candida, although I did many years ago.   

Brain fog has improved by eliminating dairy, but the fog can also be linked to estrogen--which is unlikely to be as prominent for women in their thirties.

Sooki, Thanks for all the links.  There are so many blogs and websites related to restricted diets that I get overwhelmed.  For those who can eat almonds, the Gluten-Free Almond Flour Cookbook,  by Elana Amsterdam, has good, low sugar recipes.

For dairy-free folks, coconut milk can be a good choice.  If you get the regular, not the lite version, in a can, you can pour off the water and have a thick product that mixes beautifully with eggs and a small amount of a natural sweetener to make a baked custard.  Add flavoring of your choice.  I add in melted chocolate. But I plan to try vanilla or almond extract or coffee extract.  Thick, rich, creamy. Good protein. My dairy-eating family loves it.

For a stovetop version, see elanaspantry.com. Also, I have liked 101cookbooks.com; search for dairy free/glutenfree.  There is a recipe for brownies made with black beans.  Amazing. 


eat well,
beth





Age 61; Blood type 0-; Sjogren's Dx 2005, sero-negative; plaquenil, 200-400mg/day; lunesta; vivelle dot; omega3, 4gm/day; CoQ10;  vit D3. Wheat free; dairy free. Homeopathy and acupuncture help enormously.

gardenlover

Thanks Prunella!!  I'll check these out today!  I'm hoping I can use unsweetened carob.  I have a call into the doctor to see if that is ok. 

Sooki

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Here's a video for making ghee: thespunkycoconut.com/2010/04/how-i-make-ghee.html (It takes all the milk proteins out of butter and leaves just the oil). 

Coconut oil (if you can do that) is also a good substitute for butter.
68 yo, Sjogren's, Lupus, Hashimoto's, fatigue, MGUS, peripheral neuropathy, ocular rosacea
Plaquenil, CellCept, Synthroid, Atorvastatin, Xiidra, doxycycline, D3, biotin, B12, ALA, DHEA, Ubiquinol, CPAP, D-mannose, Paleo AIP, fish oil, Cliradex wipes

gardenlover

Thanks so much for the information.  I'm going to try the ghee!  I tried to get it today, but no luck (small town blues).  My dr. phoned and said I could have carob so I was so excited!! You could write a book Sooki!! 
I'm already starting to feel better (or perhaps it is just in my head).  The hardest part will be eating on the road.  I have to go into the city tomorrow which takes about 1.5 hours each way.  Since eating out is not an option, I put a cooler in the car that plugs into the cigar. lighter and I'll take a salad or something.  I just find 99% of what I'm eating has to be made and it is really not convenient.  I thought I ate healthy before, but this is opening up a new variety.  It is a blessing in some ways.  My husband made me an awesome soup with 8 different beans, kale, turnip, etc.  It is great.  My daughter even ate it.  They haven't bought into the seaweed yet  ;D

cargillwitch

I have had to pack my foods for a few years now!

Restaurants just can't cater to me and I understand that!

Going away for a week for training for my job twice a year can be difficult. I do find that most large grocery stores( at least here in Canada- and I think you are on the East coast?) have great "deli" type sections where you can build your own salads.
I tend to frequent them more often and stock up. I also make sure my hotel room has a fridge and microwave so I can heat up soups and store cut veggies and dips like hummus. I still am able to have eggs and I hard boil a bunch- they travel well.

Glad you are feeling better. I can't say it has cured me, but I do feel miles better when I eat foods my body doesn't do battle with!
47 female, Sjogrens ,Raynauds,degenerative disc disease.Rheumatoid Arthritis, gastroparesis.