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Title: warts
Post by: jonnell on March 30, 2009, 11:42:51 AM
Does anyone know if there is a connection with warts and autoimmune disorders.  My 4 year old has sjs and keeps coming up with warts in weird places.  She has them on her knees and fingers one on her arm.
Title: Re: warts
Post by: beverley on March 30, 2009, 12:08:14 PM
Jonnell,

As warts are virus based I would have thought there could be a connection between them and autoimmune.  I have very tiny white warts in all sorts of places and they have definitely increased since my first SJS flare.  How sad that your little one has this disorder so young.  I do find that my warts disappear over a very long period of time and then reappear somewhere else.  Occasionally I have a full blown wart, but again they may be there for a few years and then they disappear - I don't treat them.  It might be a good idea to get your Dr.s advice.

Beverley
Title: Re: warts
Post by: JannaLee on March 30, 2009, 01:43:06 PM
I agree they could be related and also fever blisters.
Title: Re: warts
Post by: jonnell on March 30, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
Thank you Beverely and JannaLee.  My daughters name is Jenna lol.  I thought she was a little young for warts all over the place so I wondered if there was a connection.  JannaLee do you have sjogrens you look so young when were you diagnosed.  You are very pretty by the way.    Thank you both for your help.
Title: Re: warts
Post by: JannaLee on March 30, 2009, 06:36:24 PM
Thank you so much Jonnell, I was diagnosed about a year ago, but looking back over my life I would guess I have had Sjogren's since my teens.

I'm 47 years old and betting I have socks older than YOU, sweetie!!

I noticed your daughter's name right away and have read all your posts about her.  We folks on this site are very protective of the little ones and many of us are thinking about her and sending up prayers on her behalf.

Wishing you the very best.
Janna
Title: Re: warts
Post by: irish on March 30, 2009, 08:25:53 PM
I hate to hear of a child so young having sjogrens. The good thing is that there are more things that can be used to treat it now. I think that autoimmune diseases can cause strange things to happen to us and cause more warts, etc. However, it might be wise to get your daughter's white blood cells checked for t-cells and IgG, etc. These are blood tests and there are more tests that can be run but I don't know the name of all of them.

Reason being is that some people can have immune deficiencies that can cause them to have more infections. I have low t-cells and besides all the infections I have had an abundance of skin tags that I have had to have burned off many times- Like 100 at a time. Low and behold, my immunologist told me that my skin tags are caused by a virus. I am on IVIG (IV immune globulin) once a month and have just changed the type of product that I receive and my skin tags are becoming less. To me that means that this new product is working better than the other 2 I was on.

Just wanted you to be aware of this. Also, have you tried putting the duct tape on the warts??? That is one of the new things the docs are advising now. Seems that the tape starves the warts of oxygen and they die. You would have to ask your doc or even try googling to see what is said about it. Seems like you leave the tape on so many days and then take it off and do something else. Good Luck. Irish ;D
Title: Re: warts
Post by: wednesday mc haggis on March 31, 2009, 02:26:58 AM
Jonnell

intresting reading this, at 7 i was dx with dry eye syndrome,my nose was also dry, and crusty used to get a right telling off for picking at it lol, about the same time i had small clusters of warts on my fingers , all around the nail bed, was embarassing, doctor said they would just disappear one day , strangely i woke up one day i think about 10 years old, and they had vanished!

  cant say if it was an SJS thing , but certainly can confirm that i had multipe warts at same time as my eyes and nose went dry on me.

T x 
Title: Re: warts
Post by: ruby52 on March 31, 2009, 06:13:54 AM
I am so sorry your young daughter has this illness.I've never had a wart myself.My DH had one on his thigh and I told him about duct tape as irish explained.He had it for yrs. and finally stuck it on there.A couple of weeks he pulled off the tape and along with it came the wart.It really does work as silly as it sounds.
                                                                                  Ruby
Title: Re: warts
Post by: Chickpea on March 31, 2009, 09:27:37 AM
Hi everyone

This is a really interesting thread.  I've never had warts although one of my sons had them occasionally as a teenager.  We didn't use duct tape, although I've since heard that's good.  The advice we got was to tape banana skin on to the wart.  Seriously!  You cut a little square of banana skin and use surgical tape to keep it in place, skin side up.  Apparently it contains the same chemicals as many of the paints you can buy to dry warts out, not sure which one I'm afraid.

Skin tags - thanks Irish for this information.  I've had them for the past ten years or so, similar time to SjS I suppose.  But I never knew they were linked with a virus.  Do you know which one?

Jonnell - I hope little Jenna is coping with yet another difficulty.  As Janna says, she's in our thoughts and prayers.

Love to all - Chickpea
Title: Re: warts
Post by: jonnell on March 31, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
Thank you all for your wonderful advice and kind words.  And JannaLee Ill be 39 in June not to far apart are we.  I often wonder how many of you had sjs as young as Jenna and it just wasnt diagnosed until you were older.  Thank you for the advice about the white blood cells Jenna has had neutropenia several times.    Jonnell and Jenna
Title: Re: warts
Post by: beverley on March 31, 2009, 11:24:07 AM
Jonell and Jenna,

after posting last time, I suddenly remembered that many of my children (I am a teacher) have also had warts which Dr.s have said they will grow out of - a juvenile condition.  So this may also be a possibility.

I was diagnosed with SJS after having gone through the menopause, but when I look back I recognise lots of things from when I was a young girl that fit with the disorder.  Of course there is a tendancy to make all sorts of connections with hindsight!

Beverley
Title: Re: warts
Post by: Justdave on March 31, 2009, 02:27:24 PM
what an odd thread, I was plagued by warts for a few years..

Went to a dermatologist to get them frozen off. He told me to use duct tape because it works better
and they don't come back and hurts less.

LOL so that isn't a myth, it works really well.

Skeptical I did, and every one of them went away.   HEHE funny but true

Is there a link, maybe.

You have to wonder though, if it is the autoimune that causes warts to form or...... is it the warts that sends
the immune system into overdrive getting rid of them and in the mean time attack itself and causes a Autoimmune
situation.


HMMMMMM
Title: Re: warts
Post by: jonnell on March 31, 2009, 04:46:57 PM
Hi Dave how are you?  Do you have sjogrens?  Because my son who is 13 has alot of the same symptoms as Jenna as well as the warts they both had the epstein barr virus as children,  they both have no saliva in the mouth and are both prone to every infection under the son.  She is 4 and was diagnosed with sjs.  But hes a boy and they tell me the sjs is a womens disease what say you.  Jonnell and Jenna
Title: Re: warts
Post by: JannaLee on March 31, 2009, 04:50:09 PM
Oh my goodness!  You should have your son tested!  And if it's your rheumatologist who told you boys don't get it, you have to get a new one.
Title: Re: warts
Post by: jonnell on March 31, 2009, 05:49:17 PM
JannaLee,  ok so men can get it so would that make me a carrier?  And it was the ped that told me that.

Title: Re: warts
Post by: wednesday mc haggis on March 31, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
jonnell

  i dont think they have found a carrier connection, they do know Ai`s can run in families , but i dont think its like cystic fibrosis , where both parents are carriers, though i could be wrong.

around 90% of SJS sufferers are females, but there are quite a few men in this forum, who can im afraid testify that men do indeed get SJS, id get your lad checked out, best being safe, though i truly hope it shows he is not, but your rhemy was very wrong saying its solely a female issue, its more prevelant in women, but not exclusive to them

T x
Title: Re: warts
Post by: JannaLee on April 01, 2009, 07:15:18 AM
Wednesday is exactly right. 

The literature says 90% women, but I wonder if that is accurate.  I wonder if many men are not diagnosed BECAUSE they think it's rare in men.

The literature also says women usually "develop" Sjogren's during their 40's and 50's.  I think that is wrong.  I think most women are "diagnosed" at that age.  So many of us have mentioned we think we've had this for many years and it's widely known the 'Sjogren's factors' can take decades to appear in the blood.
Title: Re: warts
Post by: jonnell on April 01, 2009, 10:31:50 AM
wednesday,  thank you for the information.  I didnt even think about it with him he is 9 years older then her.  But there symptoms are a lot alike and she has been diagnosed with sjs so it makes me wonder.  How are you feeling with your sjs?  I hope everything is ok.  Hugs and kisses.
Title: Re: warts
Post by: wednesday mc haggis on April 02, 2009, 01:28:03 AM
jonnell

thankyou so much for asking considering all you have on your plate, im feeling a bit better for the lighter nights comming in and the weather improving , thank goodness lolol

jenna


i agree!  had this building in my system since i was 7, can think of many times i was just not quite right, especially when pregnant  , so many of us here can say that. I agree scary thought that more men aint DX since so many medical ppl seem to think they cant get it, my last rheumy said fibromyalgia was a female condition, funny how on the fibro forum there are many men , its a scary thought :-s

T x
Title: Re: warts
Post by: lovelaughter on April 03, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
Wow, that's interesting about the warts....

I had a low white blood count in my early teens and got sick fairly easy....

I had a wart on my elbow for the last 2 years...I had the Dr freeze it several times and it kept coming back.
Last summer I was diagnosed with SJS after already having gum disease at 50 years old...It seems after my hysterectomy at 50..that many things started showing up. 

And that wart, this year I had to have it surgically removed and it bent the needle when the Dr went to deaden the wart.
It was very hard and stubborn...I can remember having major dry eye problems in 2005 when I got contact lenses. My eyes were so dry, I had a hard time getting the contacts out. They were the ones you change daily...

You kinda wonder what goes with what.....

Kathy  [size=14pt][/size]
Title: Re: warts
Post by: jonnell on April 05, 2009, 12:41:13 PM
Lovelaughter,  Its funny you mention the low white blood cell count.  Jenna had severe neutropenia the same time the warts showed up.  She gets them in weird places to like the tips of the fingers, on her kneecaps, and the palms of her hands.  She is getting one cold after another.  It seems I had a better handle on things until she entered preschool and now all heck is breaking loose.  I guess her immune system just cant fight things off.  She also came back positive for having the epstein barr virus at 3.  Her body fought it off then but I always wonder if that along with having MRSA 6 times as a baby just messed up her immune system and made it turn on herself.  Thoughts and prayers are with you,  Jonnell and Jenna