If anyone missed it, they are rerunning the episode of "House" regarding
Sjogrens...Its on 8:00pm est...Fox TV...I liked it because it just didnt deal with
the dry eyes and mouth....
Thanks!!! I have been waiting for the rerun! I am going to tune in!
Take Care!
Vicky
A great big Thank You. I've been wanting to see that! You're a sweetie pie.
Bummer-I missed it again. Do you know what season that ran? I'm wondering if maybe I couldn't rent it from Blockbuster or something. I'm curious to see how he treated Sjs.
Tracy
I keep missing it, but then again I'm living the Sjogren's hellish nightmare, so do I really need to see it?
Gurs, thanks for giving us the tip-off about this show. Fortunately, I saw your post in time to catch the show. Well, first I'm glad Sjogrens was "featured" on any show. It didn't say Sjogrens right up until the end. House MD said, "chapped, cracked lips and dry eyes." Sjogrens! The show had about 15 different things going on as far as disease ideas as the hour went on. The patient did mention great fatigue in the beginning of the show.
To my dismay, it had to be women kissing (I don't like any hot displays of affection hetero or homesexual on tv). The woman who was a medic (either MD or a nurse) had been frequenting bars picking up females. The patient with Sjogrens had the disease and one could almost think it was a sexually transmitted disease. I do not think so, but I can imagine where someone could because there was so much talk of sex and sex scenes.
I guess my dismay is exactly how tv has come to portray every day people. Happy for the Sjogrens mention though. I called my daughter and sister and made them watch. Lucy
This episode was from this new season (2008) sure they will rerun it again, only wish I could have caught it sooner to let others know. It didnt provide alot of info...House told the gal to take some methylprednisone, and some tears for the eyes and she would be fine..if only it were that easy. Oh well, guess we should be glad they even mentioned it..
I agree, they really glossed over the treatment part. They made it sound like it was no big deal at all. I'm grateful they mentioned Sjogren's at all, but I was really put off and embarrassed about the kissing/yeast connection and it really did make it seem like a sexually transmitted disease. My husband watched it with me and I assured him I was not having any mouth problems and would certainly protect him from any issues I might have in the future. He didn't seem very concerned, but just the same, I'm going to discuss this with my RD and see just how common this particluar "kissing issue" is.
I'm in the UK so still not seen it - good it is getting even a little recognition.
Wen x
I've been recently watching "House," never had before, to see that episode because they show reruns nearly every night, and wouldn't you know, last night, we'd gone out. Anyway, we just downloaded it from some website and I watched it later.
I thought the handling of it was bizarre, as are most of that shows "cases," but definitely didn't like the way House and 13 minimized the diagnosis. "You're gonna be okay!" Really?! So if my friends or family watch that and believe, like so many, that "Dr. House" is a "real" doctor and the issues are "life-like," then they are also going to think that I'm "gonna be okay!?" But on the other hand look how many things that poor character went through (while being "okay!") lol.
BTW,tThe reason 13 had dry lips was from her inhaler- House didn't mean that she "got" candida from Spencer.
I still think there was so much sex either visually or suggestive that is was not clear this isn't a disease that's not sexually transmitted. I agree it was very bizarre the way it was presented. Lucy
I agree...I watched some old "House" reruns on USA network, and just loved the show..made me forget about all my health issues for a moment. This season, and this episode just
tacky...should be on TV after 10:00pm at least..
LoL, is it the sex or just the fact that it's girl on girl that bothers you guys, because there are a ton of worse sex scenes between heteros on ALL THE TIME. Desperate Housewives, for example, not to mention any afternoon soap...
Personally, I didn't think it was even AS offensive as most of those, if I was to compare, but none of it offends me, anyway, even though I find it boring to watch.
Girl on Girl, really! When does this episode run again? Guys, come on, it's a TV show starring a drug addled Doctor, like a hospital is really going to let someone that they know is abusing drugs practice at their hospital. This stuff is so redonkulous, next your going to tell me that reality TV shows are real.
First of all, our lives are not filled with all the sexual exploits depicted on TV. Why? Most of use are to busy working 10 and 12 hour days, driving kids around to soccer, basketball and judo lessons, to do anything other then sleep when we are not working 12 hour days, driving kids around to soccer, basketball and judo lessons would be too exhausting.
This crap is worse for your brain then Sjogren's is for your body
That's too bad that others don't, (or might not,) be having the kind of fun depicted on TV. I know I went through a phase where I did a lot of stuff like what I see on TV all of the time, and I know plenty of people who did, too, and who still are, but then, I don't hang out with the soccer set, who, I guess, don't have sex? ;)
As for "Dr. House," it REALLY irks ME that they call him a "drug addict." He's NOT. He has chronic pain and he manages it with medication, the only thing he CAN do. He doesn't take the meds because he enjoys them! He doesn't walk around high from them, either. Why do people think that a person is an addict when they take a drug for the reasons for which they were CREATED? Just because he had withdrawel when he stopped is no proof of addiction, it's only proof of tolerance, which happens to anyone, addict or not, who's on a drug like that for a long period of time. Sheesh.
Hi BeBe :)
I was told that one of the 'down' sides of Tramadol, which I take was that I was likely to become addicted to it. I don't care. If I need to take it every day anyway - what's wrong with being an addict? There are lots of addicts on prescription medicine. My MIL was addicted to tranquilisers and I believe Vicodin is a common addiction.
Take care - Scottie :)
Hey, Scottie,
People are using the word "addict" incorrectly and most people consider it to have a bad connotation. I've been on Tramadol. Briefly. I've been on EVERYTHING at one time or other, for that matter! ::) That includes Fentanyl patch, (which nearly killed me when I overheated at a concert and it released too much into my system!) Adderall, Valium, which I was on for 7 years for my extremely bad muscle spasms, until I decided it wasn't helping much anymore last year and stopped, (and I took between 20-to sometimes 90 mg in a dose, but don't try this at home, you don't have my weird metabolism!) and since last summer, I've been on morphine sulfate pills, the immediate release kind, 15-30 mg a day, when I need them.
I don't have that "addiction thing," so I CAN'T be called an "addict" by the very nature of my system, yet most would still think I am just because I'm on and have been on those drugs, which I find irritating...
Awwwww, no - calling you an addict wouldn't be fair.
Calling me an addict is fair enough. I think I have an addictive personality. I was certainly well and truly addicted to nicoteen. Giving up was really hard and produced physical as well as psychological symptoms. I don't know if I'm addicted to tramadol or not because I have no intention of stopping taking them right now!! :)
The kids I work with refer to the 'bad' addicts as 'smackheads'. (probably whether they're using smack or not!)
Take care - Scottie :)
I think that some people may not know the definition of being addicted or addiction: In medical terminology, an addiction is a state in which the body relies on a substance for normal functioning and develops physical dependence, as in drug addiction. When the drug or substance on which someone is dependent is suddenly removed, it will cause withdrawal, a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. Addiction is generally associated with increased drug tolerance. In physiological terms, addiction is not necessarily associated with substance abuse since this form of addiction can result from using medication as prescribed by a doctor.
Now that doesn't sound so bad and I agree that some individuals need strong medications in-order to overcome their pain, but I think it would be hard to find any situation wear LSD would be used at work to relieve a migraine, while at work.
Today most people use the word addiction to describe poor innercity people who take drugs to relieve the misery that being poor, unemployed and undereducated with no or little prospects of their lives improving. This type of pain is not recognized by our society, so we lock these individuals up in prisons, while folks in the suburbs pop pills for anxiety, panic attacks, wrestless leg syndrome, flatulence and any other disorder you can think of.
I think it's funny how young people think they invented sex drugs and rock and roll. Even the Neanderthals were getting buzzed and getting it on, that's how we got here!
My greatgrandmother use to say, the first baby always comes early, the rest take nine months. I guess things don't really change that much over the years.
I've know plenty of real addicts. They weren't "inner city youths," or "unemployed, disenfranchised" people. In all the cases that I knew, they were college educated, middle class people. 2 were addicted to coke and the one that so many forget about, alcohol, AND cigarettes. It RUINED our relationships, and their relationships with others as well as their careers at the time. THAT'S an addict, when the substance is abused for NO OTHER REASON than the pleasure one gets from it and/or continued and escalated BECAUSE of the fear of withdrawel not to mention that some just take more to obtain the same effect because of tolerance, which is just a natural occurence with certain substance, and that ALONE doesn't make the person taking it an addict, it's their response TO it that does.
I even tried smoking for a month and a half once, in my 30's, "just to see what the fuss was all about." and to prove to certain people who said they "couldn't quit" that it could be done, and I have to say, once the "helium head" feeling was gone, the smoking was not only boring, but cumbersome! I found that it got in the way of doing things, like driving. I smoked about 4 or 5 cigarettes a day, then after I felt I proved my point, (the things our mothers drive us to do!) I just stopped buying then and the only time I ever did it since was one time, when I was trying to help my pack and a half a day husband quit, (it was the cigarettes or me, this was before we were married,) and started smoking them in a "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attempt at guilting him because I knew he didn't want ME doing it. I smoked over half the pack, one after the other, and made him join me. Guess which one of us got sick? HIM! He hasn't smoked since. YES, I know for sure, he'd quit and fallen off the wagon, that's how I'd gotten him to do it for good.
My husband will kill me if he read this but he has a classic addict personality. Cigarettes, food, even my Adderall- I noticed the bottle had started to seem less full one time and found that he'd dipped into it to help with his drowsiness...then KEPT doing it until I hid it. Now it's alcohol He doesn't think he has a problem because it doesn't interfere at all with his life and he never drinks more than 2 drinks at a time or gets drunk, but there's been a PATTERN of addiction that worries me. He can't go to a restaurant and order food, even to pick up take out, without having a drink while waiting. When we moved to Philly, we went out for dinner nearly every night, and had a cocktail. Then that progressed to sometimes more than one. Then we stopped going out as much, but when we did, HE always had 2 drinks, whereas, I still just had the one. THEN I started seeing what was going on and started ordering ice tea, thinking it may've been his problem with saying "no" to "would you like a drink?" but he still got alcohol. I pointed out the issue over a year ago. I'd mentioned at one point that if he HAD to drink, he should drink wine, at least it has some benefits. That lead to him somehow starting to BRING IT HOME.
After a few months of seeing it more often in the house, and noticing that he'd drink ANY alcohol that was in the house, even if it wasn't one he cared for, and noticing that it was always GONE when I went for some infrequently, I brought it up again. He stopped buying it, then after WE got some for a special occasion, he started doing it again...after stopping a few times, then he'd start doing it again.
I'd keep telling him about it, even had him take a quiz on an AA site that told him "you may have a problem!" Now, I have to remind him when he picks up food to NOT get a drink or he will, and if we're out, I have to make him say "no" to "would you like a refill" or he'll just let them, etc. and he still tries to find reasons to bring it home...he'll tell me "I just feel like having wine with dinner..."
I finally explained it to him last night like this:
I said, "I love cheese. But I don't buy a hunk of cheese EVERYTIME I go into a place that sells it. I don't have to HAVE cheese in the house ALL the time. You do."
Then, to drive it home in a less pleasant way for him, I said, "Pretend alcohol is the same as homosexual sex. You can't go to a place where there are gay men WITHOUT somehow ending up ______"[I put in a very graphic way to drive my point home] You think about "gay sex" even when you aren't actually having it, too, because you go out of your way to GO to places where you can get it." [e.g. the liquor store for wine.] "You say you aren't "gay" [alcoholic] but yet, you can't NOT have "gay sex" whenever the opportunity presents itself AND you go out of your way frequently to get it AND if I didn't stop you, you'd keep a guy at home all the time so you ALWAYS had access to it!" "On the other hand, I can go to a "gay bar" and NOT have "gay sex," and I don't think about going out to find it or bring it home. Even when I used to have a lot of "gay sex" [e.g. drink a lot,] I could just as easily NOT do it, whereas you can't."
LOL, there was something about putting it that way that drove it home even to my non-homophobic heterosexual husband!
I quit a very addictive drug, Valium, after 7 years of extremely high doses. I do not develop normal tolerance- that's not why I took so much. With me, I become extremely tolerant to a substance after I take the initial, small dose. After that, I never have the side effects that most would get from higher dosages. With some meds, like Zoloft, it meant that I only lost some weight and slept a lot when I first went on it but not when I went on it the second time, but the main effects it has still work at the normal dosage, and Topamax only made foods taste weird and caused me to lose the 40 NEURONTIN lbs. and go back to my NORMAL weight, but never caused weight loss or weird tasting food when I started it again a year later, yet still helps prevent migraines even at only 25 mg. With CNS depressants, though, I generally need a HEFTY DOSE. I have always had a very high alcohol tolerance, even though I never drank until my 30's, and then, I went on a 2 year binge-drinking, club-going fest where I drank straight Stoli about 3-4x a week and no LESS than 10 shots worth in the 2-4 hours I was out, usually up to 25!!! Only once did I drink slightly more than that and ended up with what I realized later was alcohol poisoning and a near-death experience, and I also only weighed 115 at the time and am female. EVERYONE, even a friend of 30 years, thought I was a serious alcoholic- there were times I thought my straight vodka had been replaced with WATER!! However, for me, it was just a phase. I didn't ever "stop" drinking alcohol, but I could care less if I do these days, and have only been drunk about 3 times since 2001, and only from about 5 or 6 drinks then.
On Topamax, however, I can barely tolerate the TASTE of alcohol.
My old shrink used to say that Valium and alcohol were similar/had similar effects in the body and my high tolerance to alcohol had something to do with my high tolerance to Valium. I wish someone would study me to find out what makes me have such tolerance to CNS depressants!
I'm also volatile under anesthesia, esp. sodium pentathol- last time, after a minor surgery, I woke up fine, but my BP crashed after I got back to my room, went down to 60/52.
Bottom line, when I went off Valium, and had physical withdrawel, the LAST thing I wanted was Valium. Not how an "addict's" brain works!
You didn't get it, did you! It sounds like your too emotionally involve in this subject, time to move on to other things like liver failure, cancer, Kidney failure, chronic dry eye, tendinitis, infected parotid glands and dry vaginae.
What's "you didn't get it" supposed to mean? As for "emotionally involved," I'm passionate about EVERY thing that I consider worth talking or writing about. If you think that's "emotional," so be it, but I DO have a problem with people who pigeon-hole EVERYONE because we aren't all the same.
Like "House," who ISN'T an "addict."
This thread wasn't about whether a fictional character was or was not a drug addict. Let's move on. Lucy