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Title: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on February 23, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Hi Guys

I am new here. I was diagnosed with Sjogren's four years ago. Prior to that I was fine and the antibodies never showed in my blood results. Four years ago, I was experiencing extreme bloating and gas. I took chlorophyll (liquid) and body mint tablets. I believe that these triggered my symptoms due to alfalfa sensitivity as with most autoimmune disorders and also copper and chlorophyllin poisoning.

Immediately after I was diagnosed, my feet started to sweat. This happens only when I wear shoes (closed or open).

I have tried everything to stop the sweating and they have started to emit an odor.

Powders, creams (everything with zole) botox, drysol, formadelhyde (I know, not good). I went to a podiatrist and he established that I don't have hyperhidrosis. The sweat is not noticeable, It is the odor that it leaves behind on my feet, now even barefoot.

What I do?
I have tried supplements such as pyloricin, antibiotics for h pylori, oregano oil, olive leaf oil, Ceylon cinnamon, cloves, garlic, Ceylon cinnamon, mastic gum, B Vitamins...but my feet are still emitting an odor.

I am vegan for four years. I even tried raw for a year. I don't eat any processed food and am not stressed out.

What could this be?
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Maria3667 on February 25, 2015, 03:36:28 PM
Hi Bebe,

Well this sort of makes sense to me.

As our saliva glands don't produce as much fluid as they used to, so the fluid seems to find another part of the body to expell itself from... For example, I started sweating so much in my armpits & from my feet since I have Sjogren's.... but I don't have much odor.

So this makes me wonder, do you happen to be on hormones (bcp)? ... From you post I can't determine wether you're male or female...
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 03, 2015, 11:27:08 AM
Hi Maria

Thanks a lot for your response. I am female and you can imagine the embarrassment, especially at work when my feet start to sweat without doing much.

I recently did a lab test and there were some abnormalities.

1. Urea Nitrogen : 6L - Reference range: 7-25MG-DL
2. Leukocyte esterase: Trace - Reference range: Negative
3. SQUAMOUS EPITHELIAL CELLS: 6-10 H - Reference range: <or=5
4. RDWW 17.1 H - Reference range: 11-15

No bacteria found in blood or urine.

I don't know what to do.
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: A66eyroad on March 03, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
Weirdly, I put my shoes in the freezer overnight. This seems to kill all the bacteria and my shoes smell fresh. I don't know whether it would work for shoes that are already smelly.

The only reason I thought to do that is because my mother always put a new bag of flour in the freezer overnight. She said that would kill all the weevils and she'd never have to throw out flour. I started doing that with flour, Bisquick, and oatmeal.
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Maria3667 on March 03, 2015, 02:10:15 PM
Hi Bebe,

Well thank goodness no bacteria in your blood or urine! I can't give you any advice on the lab readings, but a practical tip just came to mind.

I remember my ex-husband curing his sweaty feet by taking thyme oil extract. It's pretty strong, but a few drops with a little honey will make it go down. Maybe the thyme will help balance the leukocytes, as it's supposed to be antisceptic? ... You could test it out for a few days...

You've probably already tried all the standard tips? Only wear leather shoes, 100% cotton socks?
Putting shoes in the freezer as A6 wrote might also be a possibility.

Good luck!
Maria
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 03, 2015, 04:43:48 PM
Thank you. I have tried the freezer thing, cotton socks, leather shoes, essential oils (thyme, geranium, cinnamon, peppermint, tea tree, eucalyptus...) and none seem to help. I threw away old shoes and the new ones have been ruined by the sweat because I even sweat through my shoes.

I've also tried powders and flours, Epsom salt, charcoal and nothing helps.

I barely eat protein anymore and my iron levels have dropped because of this.
I think it might be a metabolic issue or there might be something wrong with my kidneys because I am now developing lymph nodes.
I will try googling around. Thanks for the support.
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Kathy57 on March 03, 2015, 04:48:42 PM
I like to run when I feel good (which is becoming less and less). I've been doing more swimming now because less stressful.

I use leather tennis running shoes and you can wash them.  I wash them and I hang them up (outside in the sun is best) to dry.  I've even hung them up on my clothesline downstairs.  I wash them in hot water in my washing machine. 

This takes care of Odors and dirt that builds up over time.  I also use white cotton running socks and change them frequently.  It might help to put on a dry pair of cotton socks if your feet are wet,  this will also protect your shoes.  Just remember to carry an extra pair with you.  Also, you could wash your feet with soap and water (in the bathroom on your break) and then put on fresh cotton socks.

Don't know if  this is possible for you.  I'm a nurse so I could wear tennis shoes to work.  Maybe this isn't possible for you?

Birkenstock makes a nice leather clog.

Kathy

Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 03, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
The sweat and odor are affecting all types of shoes that I have. I only used to wear tennis shoes and because they will get soaking wet within an hour of putting them on, I changed to leather, but it is the same exact thing.

I even bought a shoe drier because of this, but as soon as I put them back on, same thing. I wash them in the washing machine and even bleached them, no change.

I always have three pairs of dry cotton socks to change and they get wet an hour after. I am at loss, I have no idea what this could be.
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Kathy57 on March 03, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
Bebe,

Sorry!  I'm fresh out of ideas.  If you wear sandals without socks in warm weather, do your feet still have this problem?  I agree that this is not normal.

Sorry that you are having this frustrating problem!

Kathy
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 03, 2015, 05:23:16 PM
Hi Kathy

Yes, even with open toe shoes/ flip flops.

It wasn't like this four years ago. Only after I took the chlorophyll for a week. At first the sweat on the feet was green. Now it just sweats heavily.
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Sleepy In Seattle on March 03, 2015, 05:28:56 PM
A couple of thoughts come to mind...is it possibly a candida or other fungus issue?

In any case, it may be necessary to get rid of your old shoes and after you find a solution, start "fresh" so to speak....
In the meantime, even though they're ugly as sin, Crocs (or some other kind of plastic shoe that can be sanitized with a bleach solution) might be your best bet - as well as white socks you can sanitize as well. Once you're "odor-free" for a while, you can get a new shoe/sock wardrobe! (I'm gonna call that a silver lining).

As far as treatment goes, this is a long shot, but it's natural and not horribly expensive...we use it at the barn all the time on horses, who get a variety of foot problems - many of them very STINKY and related to moisture.

The treatment is to soak their feet in apple cider vinegar for 20-30 minutes a couple of times a day...usually diluted half and half with water, but it depends on the problem. Full strength might be uncomfortable for you if your skin is irritated. 

You could add a bit of thyme oil and/or tea tree oil as well, and warm it up a little bit so it's not unpleasant, though I would use Bragg's and not heat it TOO much because you don't want to damage the enzymes and probiotics in it.

We usually see a big difference in the horses in a week or two. It works sometimes when all the fancy, expensive treatments don't.

ACV is quite a miraculous substance.

Just an idea to maybe try if you're at the end of your rope. It's non-toxic, so at worst it'll be just another failed attempt....
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 03, 2015, 05:44:29 PM
Hi Sleepy,

I thought it was candida as well and even went through a cleanse with a naturopath, but same thing. I took probiotics and tried fermented food including ACV internally and externally and still nothing.

I think my liver/kidneys are clogged but my test results came back normal even though urine is cloudy. Thyroids are also fine.
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Maria3667 on March 04, 2015, 12:59:42 AM
Hi Bebe,

Just 2 more hunches: did you rub the oils on or take them orally? The thyme oil has to be taken orally.

Number 2: are you on hormones?

My best,
Maria
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 04, 2015, 03:54:15 AM
Hi Maria

I tried thyme externally. I will try orally. Please provide best recipes if you have any.

I am not on any hormones.

Thanks
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Maria3667 on March 04, 2015, 09:22:24 AM
Hi Bebe,

All I remember is my ex-husband using a few drops on a teaspoon with some honey. 1x before work, 1x after.

Make sure you get a therapeutic grade essential oil, though! Something like "Thyme essential oil".

Please keep us posted on your progress.
Best of luck!

Maria
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: BUFFY on March 04, 2015, 08:54:03 PM
I have excessively sweaty feet too, only since the Sjogren's.  I find regular shoes work better for me with cotton socks, rather than slippers.  I may ask them when I go back to work next week (have been out since the end of December) if it would be okay to just work in my socks (I work in a small branch office).   I'm sure they'll love that!  It is weird that our feet sweat more and our skin, eyes, and mouth is dry!
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Maria3667 on March 05, 2015, 07:17:48 AM
Hi Buffy,

Well maybe not so weird....... Maybe the body expects to ooze a certain quantity of moisture from our bodies, if not in the mouth and eyes, the moisture pops up in a different place?

I admit, the theory sounds a bit wacky  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: bebemoke22 on March 05, 2015, 07:27:56 AM
Hi Buffy

Thanks for replying. It's nice to know that I am not the only person going through this.

The weird thing is that I am not dry anywhere. In fact mouth is always watery and tears are plenty. Sometimes they come out when I yawn.

Maybe I am at the wrong end of this disease.

Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: BUFFY on March 07, 2015, 06:01:14 PM
Not sure if this was suggested in any of the replies, but I used to have the same problem, but not nearly as bad.  No odor, just a lot of sweat.  It just seemed to away on its own, especially with this cold weather.  But anyhow, when it was happening, my podiatrist suggested using a spray deodorant on my feet.  I never did as I said, the problem seemed to stop on it's own, thank goodness.  I hope it doesn't come back now that spring is right around the corner!   My toes get very wrinkled too, and the tops of my feet appear very dry. 
Title: Re: Feet sweating
Post by: Katybarstool on March 12, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
Bebe

I can't comment on the feet sweating, but I just wanted to tell you that, as a child, my eyes used to water a lot - particularly when yawning. I had never heard of it happening to anyone else until now!

I'm 58 now and diagnosed around 10 years, and for the past 20 or so years, my eyes have been dry. My theory is that I used up all my tears as a child, which sounds a bit whacky, but makes sense to me.

Hope you get a solution soon.

Kathyx