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Sjogrens Topics => Living Life In Spite of Sjogren's => Topic started by: slccom on February 02, 2013, 09:53:11 PM

Title: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: slccom on February 02, 2013, 09:53:11 PM
      thecommentator.com/article/2601/greenpeace_s_war_on_world_health

"Last year, for example, Greenpeace helped whip up panic over a report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition that 24 Chinese children had been fed genetically improved rice in research involving Tufts University and Chinese scientists. Several Chinese officials were sacked.

And yet the larger story is that the study confirmed that so-called Golden Rice provides the Vitamin A that normal rice lacks and which so many undernourished people around the world need. Resistance to the rice, according to co-inventor Ingo Potrykus, has led to "loss of numerous lives, mostly children and women."

Lynas himself was on Greenpeace's side not so long ago, advocating and participating in militant actions against genetically modified test crops. But he has spent the past few years mastering the scientific literature, prompting an extraordinary admission in his speech.

"I want to start with some apologies," Lynas said. "For the record, here and upfront, I apologize for having spent several years ripping up GM crops. I am also sorry that I helped to start the anti-GM movement back in the mid-nineties, and that I thereby assisted in demonizing an important technological option which can be used to benefit the environment... I could not have chosen a more counterproductive path. I now regret it completely."

Please read this!
Sharon
Title: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: slccom on February 03, 2013, 12:43:13 PM
     thecommentator.com/article/2601/greenpeace_s_war_on_world_health

"Last year, for example, Greenpeace helped whip up panic over a report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition that 24 Chinese children had been fed genetically improved rice in research involving Tufts University and Chinese scientists. Several Chinese officials were sacked.

And yet the larger story is that the study confirmed that so-called Golden Rice provides the Vitamin A that normal rice lacks and which so many undernourished people around the world need. Resistance to the rice, according to co-inventor Ingo Potrykus, has led to "loss of numerous lives, mostly children and women."

Lynas himself was on Greenpeace's side not so long ago, advocating and participating in militant actions against genetically modified test crops. But he has spent the past few years mastering the scientific literature, prompting an extraordinary admission in his speech.

"I want to start with some apologies," Lynas said. "For the record, here and upfront, I apologize for having spent several years ripping up GM crops. I am also sorry that I helped to start the anti-GM movement back in the mid-nineties, and that I thereby assisted in demonizing an important technological option which can be used to benefit the environment... I could not have chosen a more counterproductive path. I now regret it completely."

Please read this!
Sharon
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: cargillwitch on February 03, 2013, 04:24:35 PM
I live on a 150 acre farm in Ontario ,Canada.

As well as training and boarding horses we raise a variety of cash crops and produce.

We are paid almost DOUBLE to plant non -GMO foods, as all  European nations have banned them and they are not in demand domestically  either.

The consumers have spoken, like any business you have to act with the market in mind.

Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: jazzlover on February 03, 2013, 05:04:21 PM
Doesn't convince me.
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: anita on February 03, 2013, 06:00:21 PM
You know, GMO is a pretty political/controversial topic.  Not sure if this is something pertinent or allowed on this Sjogren's board.
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: Nancy60 on February 03, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
I seem to remember another post about genetically modified foods, I think in one of the posts about diet, but can't find it now.  But my thought at the time was to present both sides of the issue so people can make their own minds up.  I think Sharon is just presenting the another side of the issue that we don't always hear.  I tend to want to hear all sides of an idea before making up my mind about things so appreciate the information.  Not sure if this thread belongs here or in the other forum though.  Thanks Sharon for sharing!

Nancy
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: slccom on February 03, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
That's my intent, Nancy. Thanks. Sharon
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: irish on February 03, 2013, 11:58:15 PM
Without stating whether I am for or against this, I will add that I live in the corn belt in MN and the sweet corn sure doesn't taste as good as it used to. Irish
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: 4Kids on February 04, 2013, 03:52:05 AM
Irish you just have to poke around and find companies such as seed savers or sustainable seed which promote the old heirloom seeds which are becoming less and less available. They are there, and you can still get the good old Golden Bantam and Stowell's Evergreen which have been grown since the last century and get that flavour back, not just a bunch of sugar.  Heirlooms in general have the nutrition and flavour often missing from today's selections.

Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: anita on February 04, 2013, 06:17:10 AM
Past threads (May 2012) didn't get very far before trying to present 'both sides' got heated and caused problems...and the thread was locked by moderators when names of companies, etc were being used.   I agree it would be nice to hear both sides, but most people have strong opinions about hot topics like this.

I had no problem with her intent...or opinion, one way or the other.  Just not the right forum, and I was pointing out the potential before it ends up like other past threads.






Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: sjenny on February 04, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
My health dramatically improved when I cut out GMO wheat, soybean and dairy.  That has just been my experience, I'm not speaking for anybody else - but I know I'm not alone.  It is not easy to do and I can't eat a lot of the processed convenience and fast foods that everybody else can which has made my life very inconvenient, not to mention more expensive.

But I regained my health to the point that I could go off the thyroid meds, off the Evoxac, off the Restasis - I presently have saliva, mucus, tears in eyes, nose and mouth, so I do what I have to do to function.
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: irish on February 04, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
The best brand of sweet corn years ago was the Jubilee brand. Such a sweet flavor and huge ears. Sure miss that. Used to be able to suck the juice out of the ear after you ate off the corn. IRish
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: 4Kids on February 05, 2013, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: irish on February 04, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
The best brand of sweet corn years ago was the Jubilee brand. Such a sweet flavor and huge ears. Sure miss that. Used to be able to suck the juice out of the ear after you ate off the corn. IRish

Guess what I found at westcoastseeds.com -- Golden Jubliee corn seeds! Ironically, it is non-gmo, lol. I just might have to try that one.
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: star723 on February 05, 2013, 06:48:47 PM
very interesting~ there is nothing like going out , picking your veggies fresh from your back yard. Irish is right , sweet corn is not as good as it was when I was a kid. (Indiana Sweet corn was so juicy it ran down your arms) But as I get older nothing was as good as it was when I was a kid.  But now I think I will look into more of this when I go to purchase my garden seeds~
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: jazzlover on February 06, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
I agree on the TASTE of foods. I am avoiding GMO everywhere I can.  My husband told me this week that the organic apples were the same as the others. You know what? They AREN'T .. the taste is totally different. The organic has much more flavor and NO WAX on the peeling.

The same is definitely true of TOMATOES!!! YUCK on the ones they offer now.
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: slccom on February 06, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: anita on February 04, 2013, 06:17:10 AM
Past threads (May 2012) didn't get very far before trying to present 'both sides' got heated and caused problems...and the thread was locked by moderators when names of companies, etc were being used.   I agree it would be nice to hear both sides, but most people have strong opinions about hot topics like this.

I had no problem with her intent...or opinion, one way or the other.  Just not the right forum, and I was pointing out the potential before it ends up like other past threads.

So, what are you saying? I post a FACTUAL ARTICLE that others might have a difference of opinion with, and this is not the right forum? When this is the forum where people are expressing OPINIONS on this precise issue, and this is NOT THE RIGHT FORUM?

I'm having a great deal of difficulty following your reasoning.

Sharon
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: Linda196 on February 07, 2013, 04:17:52 AM
Sharon, please accept the suggestion as considerately as it was offered, and it was correct. The "Living With Sjogrens" page is for subjects directly connected or concerning Sjogren's, which GMO foods isn't, although there can be an argument made for connection to general health.

The discussion has been moved to the proper forum, and will remain open as long as it doesn't evolve from a discussion to an argument.
Title: Re: Genetically modified foods crucial for world famine relief and saving lives
Post by: slccom on February 07, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: Linda196 on February 07, 2013, 04:17:52 AM
Sharon, please accept the suggestion as considerately as it was offered, and it was correct. The "Living With Sjogrens" page is for subjects directly connected or concerning Sjogren's, which GMO foods isn't, although there can be an argument made for connection to general health.

The discussion has been moved to the proper forum, and will remain open as long as it doesn't evolve from a discussion to an argument.

I plead brain fog moment. I thought this was posted after it was moved here.

I miss my mind!
Sharon