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Title: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: A66eyroad on September 13, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
My husband asked me to post a question about my super-duper sense of smell, and about the times when I can smell a phantom odor.

Does anyone else have this?

I can smell skunk or burning wood from miles away. One of my co-workers only washes her hair every other day and I can hardly stand to walk behind her down the hallway. One of the other girls here wears this horrible perfume called Angel that actually hurts my nose. I avoid going past her desk and I know she thinks I'm stuck up.

I can tell the difference between a wood fire outdoors and a burning house or burning leaves, even from a distance where my husband says he can't smell a thing, like if we're driving down the interstate. I can smell when the cat has walked behind the couch if I'm sitting there. I can smell someone cooking lunch in the microwave in the office kitchen, and I'm way on the other side of the building.

But then there are times when I smell something that isn't there. I can often smell what smells like an electrical fire near my desk and had a couple of the girls standing around sniffing the air like bloodhounds and nobody smelled anything. This particular smell happens only in my office and only late in the afternoons and I'm the only one who smells it, so I'm thinking it's a phantom odor.

Or I'll smell something awful and wash out all the trash cans in the house with something strong-smelling like Fabuloso and I can still smell it. It's like the smell is stuck inside my nose, I can't really explain it.

Anybody? Anybody?
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: A66eyroad on September 13, 2011, 07:56:31 AM
(About the cat -- I can smell the scented kitty litter smell clinging to her paws. She's not stinky.....)
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Happy on September 13, 2011, 08:11:46 AM
As badly infected as my sinuses and salivary glands are, I am the same way, I can smell just about anything that cant, I know when a new bar of soap is put in the shower by someone, I can smel it from teh living room, blessing and a curse
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Carebear on September 13, 2011, 08:30:24 AM
I have exactly the same experience, A66eyroad.  My smeller is so acute at times that it shocks those around me.  I used to say that I could hire my nose out to law enforcement, but I'm too sick to work these days.  ::)

And for me, mostly in the evenings, I will smell these "phantoms".  The one consistent odour defies description...kind of like burning electrical wires mixed with rotten meat (ugh, I know it sounds terrible  :P ).  And it's much worse in the winter, which makes me believe that it may be due to the dryness.
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Jellyb on September 13, 2011, 08:59:37 AM
Oh my gosh! Me too!

Bionic sniffer
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: AprilFool on September 13, 2011, 03:19:37 PM
Yes!!  I have been wondering if anyone else experiences this.  I smell a phantom odor of cigarette smoke, although there is no one in my house who is smoking.  No one ever smoked in my house.  It is annoying and weird!
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Scottietottie on September 13, 2011, 03:38:27 PM
Hi  :)

I also have super sensitive smell - but not the phantom odour thing. I always thought it was my way of compensating for not hearing so well. I can smell when someone comes into a room. I smelt an electrical fault in the building at work and got it investigated. If it hadn't been spotted it could have resulted in a fire but no one else could smell it until they were a lot closer to it than I had been.

I never assosciated it with SjS.

Take care - Scottie  :)
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: engy on September 13, 2011, 03:39:33 PM
ok, that is hysterical because my sniffer is so sensitive & started when I was pregnant. Probably same time sjogrens started!

My hubby says I can smell a fart in the next county. haha

I can tell you some funny smell stories & all about my bloodhound nose!

Carie
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Bobbie on September 13, 2011, 03:45:52 PM
Same here.  In my family we say that I can "smell colors".  Ha ha.  It is a
blessing and a curse.

Bobbie
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Autoimmunity on September 13, 2011, 04:20:37 PM
One of the things (when I was on it) that leads to being extremely sensitive to smells,  just as if I were pregnant, is methotrexate.  Extremely nauseas, extremely sensitive to smells.  I know the op and some of you are not on it, but some are and that is a biiiig factor.
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: irish on September 13, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
I have always had an exceptional sense of smell and could smell everything and anything. I always feel like I have a "snoot full" as in congested now and sometimes I can smell very well and other times I can't.

There are times that I just can't eat meals cause I can't stand the smell of the food. I am usually ok when we go out to eat. Go figure!! 8)

I have trouble telling if something has gotten old in the refrig so I find myself thowing out more food than I probably should. I still haven't gotten the hang of just cooking for 2 people so always end up with leftovers.

I also get those weird phantom smells and my hubby will think that I have lost my everyloving mind. I am always imaging that I smell a hot wire in the house and run around room to room checking out outlets, lamps, dryer, washing machine, the whole house. I sit on pins and needles many times just knowing that the whole house is going to burn down. Hasn't happened yet but doesn't mean that it won't.

I think the burning smell is my most common smell but also smell propane at times. When I drive the car will swear that I smell something with the engine. Check the oil level and temperature. Drives me crazy.

Guess it is part of the CNS problems that we have. There is a place in the upper nasal passage where a bunch of nerves come together (can't remember the name of it right now) and this is the area that will get affected and cause us the grief. This is also the place where bad infections can migrate up into the brain so it is always wise to make sure the sinus infections are treated.

How many of you feel like you nasal passages are so swollen that you can hardly blow your nose. I find I have to use my Astelin and steroid nasal spray in order to reduce the swelling so that my nose will drain a little bit. Have to irrigate a lot to get the mucus to move out. Irish
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: newhorizons on September 13, 2011, 06:34:44 PM
Tell hubby he smells like the barn animals! >:(

My smell has expanded out of the nose and nowdays can hear a pin drop, as my hubby tells others!

Though, am imaging I hear the doorbell ring... must be imagination as when I go to door, nobody's there???

Any one elses hearing has increased or decreased?

Ain't no fun... and, to boot, I have become sensitive to the feeling of clothing on my bod. Am wearing Supima cotton. Everything else makes me itch.. :o

One more oddity: If I want my digestive system to 'behave', I must wear some type of dress... no slacks.  In other words, nothing binding around my waistline.

Yes, I feel like one of a kind... and , a strange one at that!  ;)
I suspect it is peripheral neuropathy doing ITS thing! :-\ 

Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Danielle28 on September 14, 2011, 11:17:16 AM
I'm SO glad someone mentioned this. Oh my word. I will walk in the house sometimes and it's like my nose radar goes off.  I'm walking sniffing from room to room trying to figure out where the smell is coming from. It's bad when we are driving somewhere, I'll smell something from another car (like a hot smell or brakes or diesel) and I'm always scared that it's my car making the odor. 

I do have days when I can basically not smell anything though-  I get this weird real dry, numb sensation in my nose.  However, most of the time my nose is in overdrive. I have a really hard time, as someone else mentioned, smelling foods to tell if they've gone bad- like milk or yogurt-  It all smells icky to me.  The other day I thought my 5 year old had not wiped well, I was telling him how important it was to wipe properly and he kept swearing "Mommy I didn't go to the bathroom" then a little later, I smelled it again- turns out one of the dogs had gone to the bathroom outside, and that was what I kept smelling. Poor kid, but it seemed like it was coming from right where I was sitting.
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: susan on September 14, 2011, 12:58:17 PM

This is all fascinating! I have had the super sense of smell always and phantom smells have occurred intermittently.
Recently, during a flare this summer, my sense of hearing decreased to an alarming degree. Rheum. increased the prednisone and the hearing returned to "normal".

This summer the Sjogrens symptoms have definitely progressed for me, hoping for more stability soon!

Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: irish on September 14, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
This was a very bad summer for people with autoimmune diseases. My immunologist and neurologist both told me that.

The stress that the heat puts on the body is very bad and this causes an increase in symptoms. I thought I would die some days with my stress and myasthenia weakness and last weekend it cooled off and by the next day I was even more improved.

Today was the best day I have had in months and months. I worked much of the afternoon and even did a couple of windows. For the first time in a long time I didn't have the weakness, muscle spasms and feelings of worms crawling in my thighs and upper arms.

I could lift the frying pan and even carried the ladder around outside. Two weeks ago I could hardly get up and down stairs and had to sit and rest a lot plus my head felt like it was full of fuss. These darn stressful moments are not good. My neuro said I will have to move to Alaska next summer and I would love to.

Good luck and remember the get as much rest as possible to help youo heal faster. When it is hot our metabolism speeds up which really makes out body race. The autoimmune disease plaaces us in high gear already as the antibodies are trying to increase and kill us off. It really is a no win situation. Irish ;D
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: sewandsew on September 15, 2011, 01:09:34 PM
That's me too.  Extremely sensitive nose I guess.  I can smell a fire miles away, the neighbor's gas meter that was leaking, and I can smell my husband brushing his teeth on the way otherside of the house.  Sometimes I have to hold my breathe on a crowded elevator.

I thought maybe it was due to my failing hearing and the other senses taking over.
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: stephL on September 17, 2011, 06:00:29 AM

I'm oversensitive and react easily to smells, bright lights, loud sounds, motion, and temperature. I once left the library because I couldn't stand someone's strong perfume. Lawn mowers outside or a barking dog can drive me to distraction. I can't tolerate sunlight at all nowadays or it flares me. The motion issue is especially a problem because if I rise too quickly from my chair or change direction when walking, I lose my balance. Rides at an amusement park sicken me. Certain games I play online can make me dizzy and lightheaded. Mild cold or heat makes me flare. I think when inflammation irritates the central nervous system, it changes the way we react to sensory input.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irritation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irritation)

Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: lisa09calgary on September 17, 2011, 10:28:28 AM
Me too!  I drive my husband nuts with my over blown sense of smell.  It's especially difficult when we are travelling.  I just can't make myself stay in a hotel room that has any sort of smell.  And I hate phony lotion and soap smells.  If my husband washes his hands in the bathroom I smell it in the living room.  Also, if someone is sick, even before they know it, I can smell a different smell around them.  When my mother had a heart attack and didn't know it, I knew the second I was around her that something had changed, just by her smell.  I never related all this to Sjogren's Syndrome before thanks for bringing up this topic.  I feel abnormally normal now!
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Jackie on September 17, 2011, 03:35:00 PM
This is very interesting since I can't smell or taste hardly anything. I don't know which would be worse!
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Doxie on September 17, 2011, 07:26:27 PM
When I was at the NIH being evaluated, they wanted to know if I'd lost some of my sense of smell. I had to tell them that I've never had the sense of smell, never!

People say I'm lucky, because I don't have to smell the bad smells. Well, all the time, I still hear about things that smell, and I had no clue.  (you mean rain smells?).

I never missed it a whole lot (other than feeling I was dumb in elementary school because I couldn't tell what anything smelled like), until a student walked past my desk. Stopped, backed up and took a big sniff of the rose sitting on my desk, and went "ahhhh it smells so good", and walked on.  Wow, that blew my mind!

There are issues: I can't smell smoke, rotten food, or sour milk. But I have my sense of sight, and I can see!
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: theosof on September 17, 2011, 08:36:19 PM
I too have had an acute sense of smell- I thought it was from the fibromyalgia. Sometimes it can be annoying.
In regards to hearing- I have tinnitus in one ear- don't know what to do about that. I wish my hearing was better. Interesting

Glad you brought the topic up.
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: susanep on September 17, 2011, 10:45:45 PM
Ditto on all the smell/nose stuff, and even the phantom thing.

In the winter I have a strange thing. If I laugh, my nose will have a sudden shooting pain go through the bony part. This is mostly when out in the cold.

susanep  :)
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Luna on September 18, 2011, 08:20:38 AM
I have always had the bionic sniffer. Drives me and my family crazy. We always wondered why I had this. I have all the same problems everyone has mentioned in here. I have had this sinse I was a kid. I have really freaked people out with it. Cause they think Im crazy or imagining smells,then once proven, it freaks them out.. LOL The worst is ssmelling stuff we really don't want to smell. You know what i mean. UGH!!!  The good side of it is it has helped us at times. My sniffer warned us in plenty of time.
Thank you all for showing me im not a freak..

Luna..
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Jackie on September 18, 2011, 11:59:49 AM
When you can't smell, you can't taste. Two senses are lost. It is difficult to take. When your sense of smell is enhanced, does it impact you sense of taste?
Title: Re: Sense of smell weirdness
Post by: Doxie on September 19, 2011, 07:29:26 PM
 A lot of people think they can't smell, but have a very faint sniffer. They actually went through tests and confirmed that I have no sense of smell.  Even though I can't smell, I can taste. I don't know how things taste to all the "smellers", but I'm sure I can't come close. I've heard it put that I can taste, especially some of the basic flavors, but I can't taste all of the different flavors that everyone else does.

I love strong flavors like mint and lemon.

When I have a cold, things don't taste different to me. I hear they do to other people. . .