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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2011, 07:21:14 PM »
I was planning on getting my shot at work although I only started getting them the last three years and it did cross my mind that after the one including flu and H1N1......poof, got diagnosed with Sjogrens! and who knows what else is to come!  But, the virus is dead....and I was reconsidering until Jazzlover layed out all the wonderful animal parts and fluids included in the vaccine.......geesh...pigs, cows, dogs, chickens, rabbits!  I don't think there were any snake byproducts in there...geesh I don't know if I want it now :(   
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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2011, 07:26:46 PM »
My PCP, who is an Internal Medicine doctor, gives the flu shots for those who want them, but he himself does not believe in them. He even has a posting in his exam rooms about the negatives. But I know they do a lot of shots. He has quite a few elderly patients.

My former Lyme specialist never recommended the shots either. I don't want to jinx myself and tell you how well I've managed WITHOUT the flu shots!  ;)
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Re: the flu vaccination-from the Sjogrens Foundation Newsletter
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2011, 07:07:54 AM »
The Sjögren’s Syndrome Foundation feels it is too early to respond in
any official capacity to the question about whether Sjögren’s patients
should receive the H1N1 “swine flu”,vaccine. The vaccine is still being
tested and is expected to be available in the fall, so we will all learn more
in the near future. The SSF recommends that patients consult with their
doctors and frequently check the CDC H1N1 page (http://www.cdc.gov/
H1N1FLU/) which is updated weekly with the latest information.
The SSF also reminds patients to consider receiving the standard flu vaccine
(“flu shot”) that is currently available from their physician or pharmacist.
For those under Medicare Part B, the standard flu shot is fully covered by
Medicare once a year during the fall or winter.
Elaine Alexander, MD, PhD
Chair of the SSF’s Medical and Scientific Advisory Board
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Re: the flu vaccination-from the Sjogrens Foundation Newsletter
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2011, 07:36:29 AM »
The Sjögren’s Syndrome Foundation feels it is too early to respond in
any official capacity to the question about whether Sjögren’s patients
should receive the H1N1 “swine flu”,vaccine. The vaccine is still being
tested and is expected to be available in the fall, so we will all learn more
in the near future. The SSF recommends that patients consult with their
doctors and frequently check the CDC H1N1 page (http://www.cdc.gov/
H1N1FLU/) which is updated weekly with the latest information.
The SSF also reminds patients to consider receiving the standard flu vaccine
(“flu shot”) that is currently available from their physician or pharmacist.
For those under Medicare Part B, the standard flu shot is fully covered by
Medicare once a year during the fall or winter.
Elaine Alexander, MD, PhD
Chair of the SSF’s Medical and Scientific Advisory Board

It's my understanding that there is no separate H1N1 vaccine this year - that strain should be part of the normal flu vaccine now, so if you receive an annual flu shot, you should also be vaccinated against this particular strain.
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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2011, 07:39:45 AM »
Jazzlover,
Interesting, my integrative recommends the flu shots but not others. She only recommends them for certain people but especially AI.

I never had one before & always get flu (I'm around lots of kids) & my husband always gets one & never gets sick. He is also a teacher & firefighter/emt so around sickness. Of course, his immune system WAY better than mine.

I am going this week to get my shot... hesitantly.....

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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2011, 09:04:30 AM »
I am also on the fence about this issue.  The last time I got a flu shot was back in college and I got the worst flu of my life.  I haven't gotten a shot since.  That was in 1990.  I know medicine has changed a lot since then, but so has my body.  I've been on MTX for over a year and a half now with no talk of changing that.  I have very little immunity for a vaccine to work with.  I just don't think it would it would do any good.  Vaccines are supposed to teach your immune system to fight certain viruses, but if you don't have the antibodies to begin with, what's the point.  Wouldn't stirring up those antibodies cause the immune system to wake up?  With AI diseases, whose to say the the immune system will react to the vaccine as it should?  Maybe it just flares us up and does nothing at all.

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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2011, 09:26:31 AM »
well, last year was the first time I took the flu with the H1N1 and then this year was dx with Sjogrens!  I know I'm always trying to blame the disease on something.....my Mom did the same thing as she was diagnosed with RA after getting a flu shot which she hadn't done in years!  they say dead virus isn't a problem....next year they are forcing all the staff at my husband's workplace to get the flu shot...he's not happy!
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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2011, 10:56:13 AM »
Did a little research yesterday. Since the big 4 vaccine manufacturers in the US have been deluged with hundreds of autism lawsuits, they threatened to pull all their products from the US market. So, the US Supreme Court ruled earlier this year to protect them from all liability, in other words, they can't be sued for damages. Sheesh, is this even constitutional? There is a vaccine injury fund administrated by the US government to aid people who have suffered adverse reactions. LA Times Article: Supreme Court shields vaccine makers from lawsuits http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/22/news/sc-dc-0223-court-vaccines-20110223

The National Vaccine Information Resource Center advocates for informed consent, explains how to keep records of your vaccines, how to report an adverse reaction and/or make an injury claim, and links to the vaccine laws of all 50 states which explain how to take a legal exemption from laws requiring vaccines. http://www.nvic.org/

I know a married couple who are both school teachers. Just this week, their 6 year old son was immunized with the flu mist. He immediately became ill with a full blown case of the flu. His mother caught it from him and came down with the flu as well. I'm going to encourage my friends to report this as an adverse reaction.

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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2011, 01:00:35 PM »
I have had the flu vaccination for the past seven years as I have SJS and lung issues. I also had the pneumonia vaccinations. My father died in 1958, during a flu epidemic. He was only 24. I have no reservations about these vaccinations.

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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2011, 02:07:35 PM »
Did a little research yesterday. Since the big 4 vaccine manufacturers in the US have been deluged with hundreds of autism lawsuits, they threatened to pull all their products from the US market. So, the US Supreme Court ruled earlier this year to protect them from all liability, in other words, they can't be sued for damages. Sheesh, is this even constitutional? There is a vaccine injury fund administrated by the US government to aid people who have suffered adverse reactions. LA Times Article: Supreme Court shields vaccine makers from lawsuits http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/22/news/sc-dc-0223-court-vaccines-20110223

The National Vaccine Information Resource Center advocates for informed consent, explains how to keep records of your vaccines, how to report an adverse reaction and/or make an injury claim, and links to the vaccine laws of all 50 states which explain how to take a legal exemption from laws requiring vaccines. http://www.nvic.org/

I know a married couple who are both school teachers. Just this week, their 6 year old son was immunized with the flu mist. He immediately became ill with a full blown case of the flu. His mother caught it from him and came down with the flu as well. I'm going to encourage my friends to report this as an adverse reaction.

I know. It really sucks.
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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2011, 03:52:21 PM »
There is a hospital in the state that lost its administrator a few years ago to the flu.

It was October and a few cases were just starting in and he got sick. He had not had time to get his flu shot and was in his early fifties. He was transferred to Rochester and within 4 days he was dead.

He got so ill and everyone of his systems went into failure. The kidney failure started and he went on dialysis and they thought that they could get him through the worst of the illness and have a slow recovery. That did not happen and the whole state ran wild getting their flu shots that year.

This was talked about on all the TV stations, radio and newspapers in the state. People were almost shellshocked. He was a very nice guy with a nice wife and kids and people just couldn't process that he really did die from the flu. So yes, I will get my flu shot cause it still is dangerous.

It can also affect people's lungs and cause issues that can bother a person for years to come. This type of flu is influenza and is not the common ordinary flu that we have alot. It is the body aching, high fevers, coughing, headache, chills, etc., think you are going to die variety. If you have ever had it you do not want to experience it again. I speak from experience as I had the Hong Kong flu when I was 14 or so and I lost over a week of my life from being so sick. I missed 2 weeks of school and lost close to 15 pounds in little over a week. Took me a long time to get my strength back.

As I am typing this I am wondering if this was the trigger for all my AI issues. I can't say that I paid that much attention to when AI happened in relation to this flu. Irish ;D

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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2011, 05:10:33 PM »
You're right, Irish. I do think the flu tends to get minimized in just how severe it can be. The deadliest epidemic in recorded history was actually not the Bubonic Plague epidemic that gets so much popular attention (the first European plague lasted about four years), but the 1918-1919 flu epidemic that is estimated to have killed between 20 - 40 million people in a single year - more than all 4 years of the first round of the Bubonic plague in Europe combined. I remember when the H1N1 hype was all over the news, and yes, there was a lot of overreaction, but there was a lot underreaction too. I heard "it's just the flu" more than a few times and remember thinking some people have no idea just how serious some diseases can be anymore. I will gladly take my flu vaccine every single year  ;D
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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2011, 05:08:32 PM »
Hi  :)

I also think flu tends to get minimised because people say they have flu when they don't. They have bad colds or some other type of virus and I'm sure they feel ill but flu just knocks you out! If you really have a dose of flu - getting out of bed is a real struggle even to go to the bathroom. I've read at different times people posting (not necessarily in here) that they are off work and feeling miserable because they have flu. If they had flu proper - they wouldn't be near a computer.

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Re: the flu vaccination
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2011, 01:20:09 PM »
Hi Scottie

I agree. Hubby and I are going for our jabs tomorrow.

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