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Title: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: sydney6060 on February 22, 2009, 11:18:06 AM
Ok, this is a weird one.

I have had very low iron stores and low B12 for ever.  I've tried almost everything to get the iron level increased.  I've had a colonoscopy, endoscopy, ciliac testing, and the list goes on.  Nothing is ever found as the cause.

Anyway, I was speaking to an aunt of mine one day (she is 83) and she said that when she was a teenager, she had low iron.  The doctor recommended that  her parents give her stout beer.  She said she only took a few tablespoons a day, and in no time her iron levels came up.

Has anyone ever heard of this.  It sounds a little wacky to me, but I'm willing to give it a go.  And as I don't mind a beer now and then, (although I've never had stout) I guess it won't hurt.  Maybe I'll get the added benefit of feeling good for a bit.  (I'm not advocating liquor for feeling good. LOL)  But I really don't want to feel any more dopey than I do now!

I quess we get to the point in our illness that we'll try anything to give us a lift, wacky or not.  Maybe I'll try it before bed and I'll get to sleep before I hear the brids chirping in the a.m.


Feel well everyone
Susan
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Linda196 on February 22, 2009, 11:55:56 AM
I have heard this before, and there is a bit of medical science to back it up, believe it or not!

Stout contains a higher amount of brewer's yeast than other beers and ales, and brewer's yeast is closely related to nutritional yeast, which is a source of Vitamin B12. B12 is necessary to the body for the production of red blood cells, which in turn contain the iron! Other products like Marmite or Vegemite, and nutritional yeast supplements, can also provide the same B12, but the stout might be more fun ;)
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Epson on February 22, 2009, 12:57:20 PM
My mom use to eat rains soaked in vodka for her arthritis, I don't know if it's helpful but she sure felt good.
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Pooh on February 22, 2009, 01:59:01 PM
Sounds good to me, but be careful of it with the meds you are taking.  They might not take kindly to the alcohol. 

Let us know if you try it and if it works for you.  :D

Pooh
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: sydney6060 on February 22, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
Thanks for the replies.  I guess it's not as crazy as I thought.  I'll go the liquor store tomorrow and get some.  I'll keep everyone informed if my iron does improve.

And I'll be careful with my meds.  I'm on Plaq, synthroid, atacand plus, norvase, pariet and effexor.  I'll just try a half a bottle at first.  I may not even like it. 

Susan
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Patze on February 22, 2009, 02:56:29 PM
Oh Susan,

Yum, stout beer, if I only could!  :( :'(


Patze
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Scottietottie on February 22, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
When my oldest son was born my MIL told me I should drink a bottle of stout every day. It was said to be good for nursing mothers.  :)
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: wednesday mc haggis on February 23, 2009, 06:40:36 AM
guinness is fabulous for this, i know a pregnant friend of mines who got ill on iron tablts and was told by dcotor to drink 2 half pints of guiness per week and her iron went up no problem without all the consipation and sickness, it does work

T x
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Epson on February 23, 2009, 06:57:49 AM
Mc Haggis

You don't expect us to believe that story do you?  There isn't a Scott alive that could restrict their self to only 2 half pints a week.
I know, I am Irish and had a hard time keeping up with the Scott's in the Pubs while on business in the U.K, don't get me wrong, I represented my country well ;)
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Sjenny on February 23, 2009, 07:51:00 AM
Scottie:

I read that somewhere too when I was having my babies, that nursing mothers should drink beer - I didn't do it because one drink puts me out like a light, making it difficult to tend to the baby.

Can any of you Aussies tell me what vegemite tastes like?  I've always been curious ever since that song featuring vegemite.

Sue
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: wednesday mc haggis on February 23, 2009, 08:34:11 AM
susan  if you dont like it add a dash of lime cordial to it, changes taste completely, how i drink it

T x
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Epson on February 23, 2009, 09:34:34 AM
Sue,

Nursing mother should drink beer, to put the babies out for the night ;D


Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: sydney6060 on February 23, 2009, 09:45:29 AM
I might try the lime in it.  I know that red wine is good for low iron also, but I don't like the after effects.  It gives me a terrible headache.

I'm going to mention it to my Doc, the next time I see her just to get her opinion. 

Does stout keep very well if you only drink half the bottle?

Susan
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: wednesday mc haggis on February 23, 2009, 09:51:03 AM
susan

it should keep in a fridge for around a week, alcohol does preserve it, epson is going to tease me now for being an alcohol expert lololol hope this helps

t x
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Jayne on February 23, 2009, 12:01:10 PM
I have to say that as a long time drinker of Guinness, it doesn't always work. On a number of occasions when I used to be a blood doner my levels were too low to donate.
I wasn't anaemic for the common problem of heavy periods either as I wasn't having them because of the contraceptive pill first, and then later on Depo.
Anyway, it could work for you and you may enjoy the drink!
Cheers
Jayne
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: Epson on February 23, 2009, 12:26:28 PM
Stout is good for what ever Ales you ;D
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: irish on February 23, 2009, 08:51:03 PM
Susan, I hate to spoil your fun, but is it wise to use alcohol when taking an antidepressant??? Also, people who have autoimmune diseases often have low iron and ferritin levels -- part of the AI disease. Have you been put on iron tabs by the doctor. Might be cheaper also. Just a few thoughts. Irish ;D
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: sydney6060 on February 24, 2009, 07:28:10 AM
I've been taking Iron supplements for quite awhile and they don't really help. I saw a haemotologist and he wasn't too concerned about my iron levels.  Thought it might be related to my periods, although they haven't changed in years and if anything they are getting shorter.  My rheumy said that because of my low iron, B12, and my thyroid and age(48), that it would be hard to tell if my fatigue was caused by the SJS.  But he gave me the plaq anyway, and I have to say that I have noticed a change in the fatigue. 

I would just like to be able to fix one problem. 

I am on a very low dose of antidepressant and am not a drinker except for an occasional glass of wine.  But thank you for your concern Irish.  It was actually my doctor who recommended the red wine.  I think I will give the stout a try.  Even a few sips a week might help.  I'll start out slow and see how it goes.  I have blood work every 3 months, so maybe my doc will notice a difference.

Thanks everyone for you suggestions

Hope everyone is having a good day
Susan
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: irish on February 24, 2009, 08:36:16 PM
I have low ferritin levels and am supposed to take iron supplements every day for the rest of my life. I just can't do it and can't take with calcium, etc and then when I am on an antibiotic it gets even more complicated. Soooo, I eat raisins on my cold cereal and I also eat cold cereals that have the 100% of all the vitamins and iron. Total is the one brand that is good but so spendy so I eat the several generic brands my grocery store has with the 100% vitamins and iron.

I like wine but it has the sulfites in it and that makes me feel rotten. I don't drink otherwise but do get thirsty for a cold beer in a frosty glass in the hot, humid summer. I will buy the alcohol free beers and drink them. I am on higher dose of antidepressant and don't want to rock the boat. Besides that I know in my heart that I would be a big, bad drunk if I drank alcohol so I avoid it. I am addicted to Pepsi for crying out loud!!! ::)

Also, apricots are high in iron. More than one way to skin a cat. Irish ;D
Title: Re: Low Iron Stores and Stout Beer
Post by: sydney6060 on February 25, 2009, 03:46:28 PM
I didn't know that about apricots.  I love them.

I was investigating Stout beer and brewer's yeast, and some places say that anyone with a compromised immune system should be careful about using too much of the brewer's yeast.

Anyway, I bought a stout last night and tried it today. I only took 2 sips.  I think I'll stick with my iron supplements and trying to get it in food.  It's not a taste I could ever get used to.

Or I'll just go around as my usual dopey self.

Susan