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Title: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on November 25, 2015, 03:17:58 PM
Has anybody tried CoQ10 for dry mouth?
I came across studies that show it improves saliva secretion, specifically as Ubiquinol:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21406193

http://doctormurray.com/ubiquinone-and-ubiquinol-equally-effective-in-patients-with-dry-mouth-2/

Thing is, I'm taking so many supplements already as it is and they don't seem to help
so I'm wary about adding yet another.
Though if it actually works it would be worth it.
Suffering sooo much with dry mouth!
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Nomad on November 25, 2015, 05:41:36 PM
I think it might, because when I take my supplements regularly, which includes co q 10, my saliva is better. Maybe, you just helped me figure out why.

I have heard it helps prevent migraines.  And helps with heart issues of all kinds. And helps a little with energy.  I have heard it is particularly helpful for those over 40 because our body makes less and less of this with age.

And, of course, I've heard if a person is on a Statin drugs, they definitely should take this.



Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sooki on November 25, 2015, 05:49:28 PM
Ditto what Nomad said.  I have more saliva these days.  I started taking CoQ10 about a year ago along with other supplements.  It could be part of the reason.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: jazzlover on November 25, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
Wow .. maybe that's why I don't have dry mouth like most of you here. I've taken CoQ10 for the past 15 yrs.

SJS diagnosis about 10 yrs ago... but it's mostly my eyes.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: katie1111 on November 26, 2015, 03:35:33 AM
I have taken CoQ10 for many years and still have a dry mouth.  For me it helps with the fatigue.

Katie 1111
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on November 26, 2015, 09:15:29 AM
It mentions specifically Ubiquinol to assist with dry mouth.
In the trials it increased saliva production over 80% after a month.
However, if you have no saliva to begin with you won't have loads even with an 100% increase,
but it's better than no increase at all.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: jazzlover on November 26, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
PS .. if you have heart problems or you take statins .. be SURE to add CoQ10.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on November 28, 2015, 10:12:33 AM
I have ordered Ubiqinol and will give it a serious try.
Something needs to work for me already!
I'll keep you all posted if it actually helps!
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: MetalFae on November 28, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
Wow.  :o  Lots of positive things about CoQ10. Maybe I should look into this... Looking through Medscape and it's recommended for a lot of things. Periodontal disease is a suggested use. Huh. Interestiiiiiing!

I don't see anything about it but just to make sure - any increased bleeding or low platelets associated with CoQ10 use?
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Carolina on November 28, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
I've taken CoQ10 for years and years.

I don't know about the saliva part.

Hugs,  Elaine
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: acer455 on November 28, 2015, 09:38:27 PM
 Does it help with the nose? As far as helping with dry nose?
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on November 29, 2015, 02:53:54 AM
Hi Acer, can't find anything about it helping with dry nose, but you may want to check if it mentions it here:
http://www.doctoroz.com/article/ubiquinol-ally-against-aging

The article stresses you must take the form Ubiquinol for the beneficial effects mentioned.

BTW, the only thing that clears up my nose is Clarinase or Sudafed, but it worsens my dry mouth.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Jasper on November 29, 2015, 08:03:29 AM
I take CoQ10 and have done so for a little over 2 years. I actually started taking CoQ10 for other reasons. However, I have noticed a big improvement in my saliva production since starting CoQ10. And, yes, it should be the ubiquinol form. I use Life Extensions Super Ubiquinol CoQ10 100 mg with BioPQQ.

I cannot state for sure if the CoQ10 has caused the improvement. I started taking other supplements around the same time that I started the CoQ10 and I have added a few more since then. So I cannot say 100% that it is the CoQ10. However, one or several of them are helping because I take no prescription meds for dry mouth and my mouth is noticeably more moist.

As for dry nose, I use the saline irrigations and I take N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine 600 mg (Life Extensions) which has loosened up my nasal secretions tremendously so that I no longer have plugged sinus cavities. My nose even runs (clear drainage) (which is better than being dry and plugged). My ENT agreed that it was the N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine which was causing the improvement. N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine is actually used in Sjogren's to loosen up the mucous in the lungs. It appears that it also works on the sinus cavities and nose too.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Deb 27 on November 29, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
I've been considering getting some CoQ10 to help with energy and muscle aches. After what I read here, I will definitely get some. I'll let you know if it helps with the dryness. I don't want to take evoxac b//c I have a tendency towards asthma and sensitive stomach. I also take Maxi Tears and I think it helps the dryness a lot.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on November 29, 2015, 09:34:37 AM
Thanks Jasper, the  N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine sounds great for sinuses and perhaps might help as well with the thick secretions
that may be causing my eyelid and parotid swelling. It's worth a shot. How much do you take daily? Just 1 pill of 600mg?
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Jasper on November 29, 2015, 10:52:59 AM
I take 600 mg of N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine a day. I started taking it for improving cognitive function and improving my neurological status (peripheral neuropathy) in addition to the mucous membrane benefit. I actually think it is possible that the N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine may also help with my mouth dryness. After all, the mouth is a mucous membrane.

Regardless, I have seen improvement in my mouth, nose, and cognitive function, some of which may be due to the N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine. Like I said, I do take a lot of supplements, several of which target the same problems, so it is a little difficult to know which supplement is the one responsible for the improvement. I tend to think they all help a little.

Here is a link to a study (UCLA Neurology Dept.) about reversing cognitive decline. N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine is one of the (many) supplements they recommend. I tend to agree with them that one thing is not going to significantly improve cognitive function but several things probably will make a significant difference. 

http://www.impactaging.com/papers/v6/n9/full/100690.html
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on November 29, 2015, 11:20:03 AM
Thanks for this Jasper! Interesting stuff.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: MetalFae on December 01, 2015, 01:46:25 AM
Re: Asthma and Evoxac

So that is a thing? The medicines plus Salagen cause asthma flares, right? Increasing airway resistance or something? Darn...

Yeah I'll have to get the coq10... I think Salagen is worsening my cough variant asthma
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on December 01, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Just terrible MetalFae...it seems all these meds have awful consequences!
Make sure you get specifically the Ubiquinol form.
Ordered mine last week and awaiting its arrival.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: MetalFae on December 01, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
I just ordered mine! I double checked and it's the right kind. I'm looki forward to trying it :)
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on December 01, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
Great, lets keep each other posted on our results!  :)
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: bluegardenia on December 01, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
why Q10 should be bad for heart? somebody mentioned this
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: acer455 on December 01, 2015, 02:52:34 PM
  About the CoQ10 what doses are you suppose to take for dryness?  I don't have heart problems just dryness.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Jasper on December 01, 2015, 03:05:24 PM
Bluegardenia ..... CoQ10 is supposed to be good for the heart.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/coenzyme-q10

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/938.html

Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: acer455 on December 01, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
  Hi Jasper what doses do you take?
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Jasper on December 01, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
acer455 ..... I take Life Extensions Super Ubiquinol CoQ10 100 mg with BioPQQ. I take 1 soft gel per day with food.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: MetalFae on December 01, 2015, 04:49:34 PM
The study about this used 100mg so I'm going to start there with the dosing.

Yay for Amazon Prime shipping - I should get it Thursday at the latest.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Lotus1 on December 01, 2015, 04:58:53 PM
I'm giving ubiquinol, the active part of CO Q10 a go for more saliva.

See how it goes.

Hubby has begun using ubiquinol for energy.
It's suppressed his appetite, a side affect apparently.  Hope it helps him lose a little more weight.

I'm under weight so will cease ubiquinol if my appetite becomes suppressed.

Lotus1
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: katie1111 on December 02, 2015, 06:11:47 AM
As I posted before, I take the CoQ10 for fatigue.  I started at 100mg and now take 100mg in the morning and another at noon.  It takes about 3 wks for it to kick in.  The one thing I forgot to mention is that since it is used for fatigue, it should not be taken after 4P or it might keep you awake at night.

Katie 1111
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: bluegardenia on December 02, 2015, 07:20:13 AM

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Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
? Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 06:30:33 PM ?

    Quote

PS .. if you have heart problems or you take statins .. be SURE to add CoQ10.
   

this means that is OK to take Q10 or not, excuse me if i ask again but  english is not my language so i do not understand if BE SURE means its good or not
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: acer455 on December 02, 2015, 09:50:52 PM
   Hi Bulegardia,  It GOOD to take CoQ10. 
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: bluegardenia on December 03, 2015, 04:37:17 AM
thanks so much!
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: jazzlover on December 03, 2015, 06:46:34 PM
why Q10 should be bad for heart? somebody mentioned this

IT IS GOOD FOR THE HEART!!!!
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: jazzlover on December 03, 2015, 06:48:10 PM


Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
? Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 06:30:33 PM ?

    Quote

PS .. if you have heart problems or you take statins .. be SURE to add CoQ10.
   

this means that is OK to take Q10 or not, excuse me if i ask again but  english is not my language so i do not understand if BE SURE means its good or not

Statin drugs deplete our CoQ10 .. so if you take statins you need to add CoQ10 to your regimen.

CoQ10 also helps heart arrythmias.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: ashler on December 09, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
Thanks for tge tip. I will buy Ubiquinol tomorrow and will report back if it makes any effect at all on my xerostomia.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on December 10, 2015, 01:43:18 PM
Great Ashler, I'd be happy to hear about your experience with it.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Maria3667 on December 10, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
I tried CoQ10 a couple of years ago and it did provide more energy, no change in saliva - but made my skin awfully itchy  ::)

Also tried N-acetyl-cysteine, it did stimulate saliva, but also anxiety.

So far the only thing which increases saliva without terrible side effects is testosterone, besides the weight gain & constipation.




Seems like I can't win...
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on December 10, 2015, 03:17:49 PM
Did you try the CoQ10 as Ubiquinol?
I'm wondering if the brand you tried had anything to do with the itching.
Could've had additional ingredients that caused a reaction maybe?
I've been trying N-acetyl-cysteine from Solgar and so far no anxiety (no more than usual, anyway  ;))
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Maria3667 on December 10, 2015, 03:24:23 PM
Sharon,

To be honest with you, I can't remember if it was Ubiquinol...
Did see it in the health food store today and thought 'what a weird name for a supplement'... Maybe a sign from above? ... lol...

Thank goodness you don't have the anxiety like I do. I'm simply very sensitive to... well, everything?

Keep me posted please ;)
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on December 10, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
Well, my sensitivities may manifest in different ways: rashes and skin swelling for example (we've both got the itching issue).
I'm still waiting for the Ubiquinol I ordered to arrive.
Hope I'll be able to post something positive soon... :)
 
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: Sharon on February 10, 2016, 03:32:16 PM
UPDATE: I'm pleased to report my Ubiquinol trial findings:

After 30 days of daily doses of 200mg Ubiquinol: Increased saliva, decreased burning tongue symptom
After 45 days on the same doses: I feel like a normal person saliva-wise! No more burning tongue, no waking up with dry mouth, no sipping water throughout the day, no coughing from dry throat!

Conclusion:This stuff actually works!  :D

I've tried numerous supplements for SJS symptoms, but this is the only one which I can definitely say makes a difference, and what a difference! I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on February 11, 2016, 09:31:14 AM
Thanks for the update, Sharon. Glad to hear you got good results. This thread, along with MetalFae's last week, is really making me lean towards trying ubiquinol. While more saliva would be great, I'd really be hoping for some dry eye relief like someone it MetalFae's thread experienced. Since starting ubiquinol, have you noticed a difference with your eyes?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 11, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
Unfortunately I have not noticed a change in eye dryness with this.
I've read we have ubiquinol receptors in our salivary glands, but with eyes it seems to benefit them in a different manner which is not related specifically to dryness:
 http://www.healthgauge.com/read/healthy-aging-with-ubiquinol/
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Kathy57 on February 11, 2016, 06:04:17 PM
Okay, ladies (and gents)

I just purchased some ubequinol  on Amazon.  It comes this Saturday.  Going to try it and let you all know what I think.

I so hope it gives me more saliva!  Here goes!

Kathy
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 11, 2016, 06:23:22 PM
Good luck Kathy!
Just remember: You need to take it at least 30 days to begin seeing results.
I look forward to reading your post in a month!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 12, 2016, 11:58:05 AM
i started 2 days ago... ill give u my news!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 13, 2016, 04:31:46 PM
Don't forget to take it with something fatty to aid in absorbtion.
I take it together with Omeaga 3.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 14, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
me too even if its not very good for my stomach
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on February 15, 2016, 12:12:20 PM
Okay, based on this thread and MetalFae's recent one on the same subject, I'm jumping on the bandwagon. Luckyvitamin.com is having a sale today, so while reordering curcumin, I added ubiquinol to my cart. We'll see what happens!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 15, 2016, 12:28:58 PM
Metalfae's post was originally based on this one,
she just posted her personal update.

I brought the dosage down to 100mg a few days ago
and still have plently of saliva!

Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on February 15, 2016, 12:49:00 PM
Aah, so you are inspiring quite a few board members!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 15, 2016, 02:33:46 PM
oh god, i pray it will useful for me also
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 15, 2016, 10:08:41 PM
I see no reason why it shouldn't work for you as well...
I can't understand why no doctor has mentioned Ubiquinol to me.
Could have saved me a year of anguish!

Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Wal on February 16, 2016, 10:00:39 AM
Hi Sharon! What brand did you purchase of this stuff? There's like a million to choose from! Ha!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 16, 2016, 01:41:41 PM
I use NOW FOODS brand, but only because it was most affordable I found (I order via internet).
I imagine any reputable brand with the same active ingredient would work just as well.
Just make sure to get one that's at least 100mg.
 
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Deb 27 on February 16, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
I enjoyed that article Jasper. What amazing results for those people with cognitive decline!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on February 20, 2016, 11:08:28 AM
My ubiquinol arrived today and I just took my first dose. I decided to start at 100 mg per day after reading this supplement could cause low blood pressure. I generally have low blood pressure and don't want it to go too low and cause dizziness. I hope 100 mg per day is enough to have a positive effect on my symptoms.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 21, 2016, 12:52:08 AM
Wasn't aware it could lower blood pressure.
I too have low blood pressure and didn't notice it had any effect on it.
In any case, others have had success on 100mg and I myself have lowered from 200mg to 100mg
since it gave me more saliva than I really needed.
Best of luck!  :D
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Jasper on February 21, 2016, 06:42:24 AM
CoQ10 won't drastically lower blood pressure. It can lower it a few points, but not drastically. It is not like some of the drugs on the market that can rapidly and noticeably lower the blood pressure.

I believe the recommended dose is 200 mg a day for lowering blood pressure, but even that dose  is not going to drop the bottom out of anyone's blood pressure.

When I started taking CoQ10 I started at 200 mg a day, but I dropped down to 100 mg a day and it works just fine for saliva. I now have sufficient saliva most of the time and no longer need to be sure I have water with me at all times. I also no longer sleep with water at my bedside and I don't need to drink water at night.

Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 21, 2016, 07:45:54 AM
i dont know if its in my mind but i notice a little improvement in mouth dryness, i dont take salagen or evoxac and my other supplements are  omega 3 and 6 and b complex  since last year.i have low bp but did not have any change so lets hope its ubiquinol!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Nymph on February 21, 2016, 10:23:44 AM
My dad has told me to take this but I have resisted adding any more supplements. But lately I have been flaring a lot, dry and so tired. I'm going to try it. I think that we already have some in the house.
Title: Re: CoQ10 increases saliva?
Post by: ibtrue on February 26, 2016, 07:46:44 PM
I take CoQ10 and have done so for a little over 2 years. I actually started taking CoQ10 for other reasons. However, I have noticed a big improvement in my saliva production since starting CoQ10. And, yes, it should be the ubiquinol form. I use Life Extensions Super Ubiquinol CoQ10 100 mg with BioPQQ.

I cannot state for sure if the CoQ10 has caused the improvement. I started taking other supplements around the same time that I started the CoQ10 and I have added a few more since then. So I cannot say 100% that it is the CoQ10. However, one or several of them are helping because I take no prescription meds for dry mouth and my mouth is noticeably more moist.

As for dry nose, I use the saline irrigations and I take N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine 600 mg (Life Extensions) which has loosened up my nasal secretions tremendously so that I no longer have plugged sinus cavities. My nose even runs (clear drainage) (which is better than being dry and plugged). My ENT agreed that it was the N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine which was causing the improvement. N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine is actually used in Sjogren's to loosen up the mucous in the lungs. It appears that it also works on the sinus cavities and nose too.

Hi All,
Long time lurker of this forum with first time post. I first experienced dry eyes a few years ago and was diagnosed with Chronic dry syndrome by an Opthalmalogist. About 2 yrs ago I started having a dry sore throat that would not go away and saw an ENT who gave me 2 rounds of antibiotics to no avail. It was suggested that I see a rheumatologist and she ran blood tests and said I didn't have all the markers for a diagnosis of Sj?gren's syndrome but I had many symptoms of it. So, she started me on Evoxac 30mg three times a day. I wouldn't say it has been a success to alleviate the dry mouth/throat. I have since been dependent on Ricola sugar free and Xylimelts lozenges. What an annoyance to make sure I have them with me at all times!!!!  I also use Biotene mouthwash at bedtime which helps. 

The reason I decided to post was because of this topic of dry mouth and the results of the use of Ubiquinol CoQ10 by you all. I decided to give this a try and found the brand that Jasper uses. There is a special price for Amazon Prime members at $15.00 for 30ct bottle of 100mgs which is a great price compared to other brands.  Thank You Jasper for the info.  I'm on day 5 since starting the Ubiquinol. I figure I should give it at least a month to see any results?  Thank you all for your stories-ibtrue
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 27, 2016, 06:14:41 PM
Good luck with the Ubiquinol bluegarnedia, nymph and ibtrue!  :D
I am amazed how well it works, it has truely restored my quality of life!
As far as dosage, I raised it back to 200mg for best results.
Gives me comfort all day and night long.
I first began seeing results after a little over a month with a very significant improvement after 45 days.

All rheumys and ENTs should be suggesting this treatment for mouth dryness issues!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 28, 2016, 06:56:31 AM
as i said i have already results and its more or less 15 days i take it.
sharon why did u go back to 200? 100 wasnt enough?? im afraid that one day 200 will not be enogh and  we should raise to 300 etc...
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 28, 2016, 04:28:15 PM
That's quite impressive Bluegardenia!
What brand are you taking?
I raised back to 200mg since that's the dosage that makes me feel most comfortable all day long.
Maybe it's the brand I'm using (NOW foods) or the fact that my mouth is otherwise dry as a desert
that I need a double dose. I don't really know.
The study on it reported a 80%+ increase in saliva after a month on 100mg.
Since my mouth was so dry, I figure even 80% increase from the 0% I was having is still not much!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 28, 2016, 07:39:57 PM
i take solgar ubiquinol. i have saliva, i really notice the difference. my problem is my throat and oesophagus, i still dont understand if reflux plays a big role in this. when i swallow with my mouth empty,  i swallow saliva, i dont remember how was when normal two years ago but i def have saliva now but when i eat things get stuck, not always but they get stuck or they go down very  slowly and its scaring, even with water or anything else, yoghurt tea etc. as everything comes up i think its reflux, i must fix this but, i dont know if this happens to everybody, when the situation is better, and sometime it does, i tend to postpone the problem
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 29, 2016, 02:19:16 AM
That may be due to an entirely different issue.
I'd definitely get that checked out!

Yes, Solgar is a very good brand, just pricey!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 29, 2016, 07:03:29 AM
i know but its the only one i found  here in italy, the other forms are ubiquinone
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 29, 2016, 08:37:43 AM
I might give Solgar a try myself.
Have you had any increase in tears or in energy from it?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on February 29, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
i dont have problems with my eyes, i put systane ultra 2 a day thats all, i take omega 3 and 6.  im completely out of energy in these days but not usually, i have periods of some days usually when the season changes or when others have a flu which i never(i touch iron ) have  bec as soon as i feel it arriving i stay home. not amusing but useful, im just scared to have a flu, im by myself and it would be a tragedy
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 01, 2016, 01:29:22 PM
well i spoke too soon...i had some wonderful days with lots of saliva and today i woke up completely dry. its so strange  after a "normal" period! the only thing that i changed  is that i did not take omega3 bec i had finished the pills. this evening i took another ubiquinol and started again with omega, lets hope
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 01, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
i forgot to say that my eyes are still ok and fatigue diminished so its just mouth and throat
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 01, 2016, 03:48:58 PM
It's important to take the Ubiquinol with Omega3 or some other fatty food.
If you don't, the Ubiquinol won't get absorbed.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 01, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
thanks sharon,i forgot that
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Wal on March 02, 2016, 03:11:28 AM
I've been on it two weeks today. Was feeling better last week or so then had a rough night. Wondering if I should increase to 200mg hmmm. ENT said he had never heard of that for dry mouth. Figures, since they believe it's a "minor annoyance."
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 03, 2016, 05:21:23 PM
Hi Wal, the study I found only mentioned results after 30 days on 100mg and I only experienced a major improvement after 45 days, so you may get better results soon even on the 100mg if you keep it up.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: ibtrue on March 04, 2016, 10:21:30 AM
Hi Wal,
I've been on the ubiquinol 100 milligrams for about two weeks now. You know, it seems that I'm not using as much throat lozenges as I used to. Let's hope it's due to increased saliva production although some days I'm not quite sure.   I'm going to give it about one month and see where Saliva production is at. Let's cross fingers and hope the best for all of us. 🤗
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 06, 2016, 11:07:29 AM
Give it at least 45 days guys!
I've been on the Ubiquinol for over 2 months now and it's the ONLY thing that has made any difference for me.
I'm not taking anything else (besides Omega3 and Vit. C.).
I had close to zero saliva production before from my parotid glands and now I have an abundance!
Truly a miraculous supplement!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on March 06, 2016, 11:20:47 AM
I've been taking ubiquinol for 2 weeks now and saw quick, dramatic improvement with eye moisture within a few days. Around that time or a little before, I also discontinued fish oil supplement and doubled flaxseed oil supplement, so that may have contributed to eye moisture improvement, also. I know, not wise to change more than one thing at a time because then it's harder to tell which is working, but I was running out of fish oil and decided not to replace that source of omega 3 since I was also taking flaxseed per ophthalmologist's suggestion (ETA: though ophth did not specify how much flaxseed oil).

No difference in saliva yet, but not worried about that because it hasn't been that long, my eyes are more of a problems than my mouth, and I can take Evoxac (but would prefer natural remedy) for my mouth.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 06, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
Interesting, someone else also posted improvement in eye moisure with the Ubiquinol.
What brand are you taking?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on March 06, 2016, 11:56:59 AM
Interesting, someone else also posted improvement in eye moisure with the Ubiquinol.
What brand are you taking?

I tried it for eyes because of that one other person on this board and a few others elsewhere when I searched "ubiquinol dry eyes". Dry eyes is my worst and most debilitating SJS symptom.

I'm taking NOW brand because other's have attested to its efficacy and it gets good ratings. I found it cheapest at luckyvitamin.com where I also found LifeExtension Super Bio-Curcumin and NOW D Mannose the cheapest. You just have to  meet a $49 minimum purchase to get free shipping but that's not hard to do when you calculate timing to stock up.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 06, 2016, 11:59:43 AM
Thanks for the info Sunshine, I'm also taking NOW brand.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 06, 2016, 01:54:55 PM
NOW is  otc?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 06, 2016, 01:58:30 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 08, 2016, 06:22:27 AM
sharon do u take ubiquinol together with omega, i mean at the same time?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Jasper on March 08, 2016, 07:02:52 AM
Bluegardenia ..... I am not Sharon, but I take CoQ10 and Omega 3 supplements and I take them at the same time, with a meal. In fact, I take most of my supplements at the same time, with food. I do have 4 supplements that need to be taken on an empty stomach, so I take them earlier, an hour before I eat, but the rest I take together, with a meal. 

I hope CoQ10 works for you. It has has helped me.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on March 08, 2016, 07:30:01 AM
sharon do u take ubiquinol together with omega, i mean at the same time?

I'm not Sharon either, but i take ubiquinol with my flaxseed oil supplement because the instructions on the ubiquinol bottle say to take with a fat containing meal. I take it in the morning when I also add olive oil to my oatmeal.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 08, 2016, 10:47:24 AM
thanks sunshine and jasper. i cannot swallow any kind of pill,even soft gel, so i open theem and put on food. i dont think its the same but thats what i can do.
 in the past days i had noticed i great improvement in my saliva after just 15 days of ub quinol but all of a sudden im dry again, very dry so in quite desperate. its almost 25 days i believe i take it
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on March 08, 2016, 12:00:05 PM
All of a sudden dry again is disappointing, bluegardenia. Can you think of anything you changed in your routine, diet, medication, supplement or environment recently that might have caused that?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 08, 2016, 02:18:14 PM
Hi Bluegardenia,
I do take the ubiquinol together with an Omega 3 capsule.
It's important for its absorbtion.
Not certain things work the same when you open the capsules as they have to pass through
the stomach acid, but if it was working for you before I recommend to continue.
There's a build-up effect with the ubiquinol so things should get better.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 08, 2016, 02:29:09 PM
ok thanks.
 no sunshine i did not change anything. i was so happy for days!!! anyway i go on
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: ashler on March 14, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
just to report that after taking Ubiquinol for 2 months it did nothing to me.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 14, 2016, 04:44:56 PM
i must say that after some wonderful days some time ago when i thought i had found the magic treatment, im dry again... sharon? does  this still work for u?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 15, 2016, 06:51:45 AM
Hi guys, sorry to hear it's not working for you.
Yes, it's still helping me alot and I dropped down to 100mg once a day again.
I feel "normal" again saliva-wise thanks to the Ubiquinol.

Ashler- What brand and dosage have you been taking? Do you take it with omega3 as recommended?

Bluegardenia- I know you've been opening the capsules, but maybe try swallowing them so they don't break down or whatever before they reach their destination? They're quite small the capsules so it shouldn't be too difficult.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Kathy57 on March 21, 2016, 08:05:00 PM
Sharon,

I have to say that I feel better taking the ubequinol.  My saliva is still not normal but improved.  I just ordered some more.

Thanks for letting everyone know about this.  I am helped so much by the good people here!  If you haven't tried the Ubiquinol and have a very dry mouth - I recommend that you give it a trial.  It is worth a shot.

Kathy
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Wal on March 22, 2016, 02:03:44 AM
It's now day 34. I had a milder week with dry symptoms but it appears I have now taken a nasty turn again with more dryness😥 I'm thinking the Ubiniquol had nothing to do with it but rather it was my normal waxing and waning of symptoms. Someone mentioned opening capsules? Mine are gel tabs. I got the Now brand so hoping it's the right one. I had some pretty bad stress yesterday and a few days of a poor diet so I'm thinking that triggered a dry flare from mild to bad. Who knows. It's so frustrating. My only symptom is dry mouth so I was really hoping this would work as docs don't know what's wrong with me😕
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 22, 2016, 05:09:10 AM
Kathy- Thanks for letting us know you're having some relief with the Ubiquinol!
How long have yiu been taking it?

Wal- I don't recommend opening the capsules! That may harm absorbtion.
I too take the NOW brand.
We all have the waxing and waning, mine usually has a hormonal basis.
When I feel I'm flaring more I raise the dosage to 200mg.
When I'm feeling better I lower it again to 100mg.
When I first began taking ubiquinol I took 200mg for about 2.5 months.
Perhaps play around with the dosage a bit until it really kicks in.
Hope it works for you soon as it can really give much relief for this extremely annoying issue of dry mouth!  :)
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Kathy57 on March 22, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
Sharon,

I've been taking it for more than five weeks.  Just bought some more.  My mouth isn't as dry and I rely less on gum and hard candy.  😃

Kathy
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on March 22, 2016, 02:47:54 PM
kathy i have problems with capsules so i squeeze them on food. but i put ubiquinol in the water so the capsule becomes softer. im so happy that ubiquinol works for u
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: jazzlover on March 22, 2016, 03:31:47 PM
I take two of the NOW brand capsules 200mg each.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Wal on March 22, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
For those who Ubiquinol is working for, do you still have dry rough tongue even with the saliva?
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Jasper on March 22, 2016, 04:13:00 PM
My tongue is not dry or rough anymore. I have a lot more saliva than I used to have. I still have difficulty with food getting stuck in my throat sometimes, but my mouth is so much improved. I no longer need to drink water at night and can go hours without drinking anything.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Wal on March 22, 2016, 04:18:38 PM
Strange that even when it seems that I have lots of saliva I still have dry rough feeling tongue. I wonder if it's a variation of burning mouth syndrome.?...
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 22, 2016, 04:55:38 PM
Wow Jazz, you're taking more mgs than anyone else that has reported here. Did you begin with this dosage or
did you build up to it when lower doses failed?

Wal- My tongue still feels a bit dry/rough at times, but the burning tongue syndrome and thrush I was having before taking the ubiquinol are now gone.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on March 24, 2016, 06:27:39 PM
My month of 100 mg per day is up and I didn't have any change in saliva production.  :(

I started with 120 capsules, so I still have a bunch left. I will double down for a month (one in the morning and the other in afternoon) and see how that goes.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on March 24, 2016, 06:49:21 PM
Good idea Sunshine.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Wal on April 02, 2016, 05:14:44 PM
Update: day 46 is coming to a close on Ubiniquol. I'm thinking it "could" be helping some. My symptoms have stayed in the fairly mild range. Annoying as crap, but not intolerable as in the past. I'm hoping to be symptom free of dry mouth in the future or as darn close to it as I can get. I may increase to 200mg. Is that safe? Are there side effects? I did a spit test in a little measuring cup. No increase in volume. It was the same as when ENT performed it in Feb. I guess the same is better than less...
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on April 03, 2016, 02:48:08 AM
I began with 200mg for about 2 months then eventually reduced to 100mg which seems enough to maintain the beneficial results I've achieved so far.
I had no adverse side effects and know of none but you can google it if you're concerned.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: bluegardenia on April 03, 2016, 09:57:10 AM
im afraid to say it (hope i did not speak too soon...)but im absolutely less dry, thanks sharon!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on April 03, 2016, 11:05:07 AM
That's great news bluegardenia!  :D
Remember to increase dosage if needed.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on May 09, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
I ran out of ubiquinol capsules over the weekend and won't be reordering for now. After taking 100 mg per day for a month, I switched to 200 mg and didn't notice an improvement in saliva production. At first I thought my eyes seemed better, but even on 200 per day (taken together for a while and then switching to separate for a while) they were dry. Maybe I'll try again in the fall when pollen season won't be a factor like it was recently.


Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on May 09, 2016, 02:05:43 PM
Ubiquinol is still working wonderfully for me as far as producing saliva.
When I have a flare I need to raise the dosage to 200mg,
otherwise 100mg nightly does the trick!  :)
I wouldn't expect it to help with eye dryness, as it specifically activates the saliva secretion mechanisms.

What brand were you taking Sunshine, and for how long altogether?

Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on May 09, 2016, 06:03:09 PM
I used NOW brand 100 mgs per day from February 20 to March 26 and then 200 mgs per day from March 27 to May 7.

I'm good with Evoxac for saliva and need help with my eyes. After seeing this thread, I poked around online and saw some people (very few) commented that ubiquinol helped alleviate their eye dryness. Dry eyes are my worst symptom so I figured I would give it a try hoping to be one of the lucky few. It was a long shot but worth a try if there was a possibility it would help.

 Glad it helps you and others with saliva, though!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on May 10, 2016, 02:36:25 AM
I also use NOW brand. Wish it would help me with the dry eyes as well!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Maria3667 on May 10, 2016, 10:53:15 AM
For dry eyes I find low dose Dhea to be very effective. I'm taking 5mg and am even able to wear contact lenses again, who would have thought?! Punchline is, however. it only works if I take it intravaginally... 🙄
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on May 10, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
Thank you for the suggestion, Maria. I will ask my doctor about that at next appointment.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on August 21, 2016, 04:05:34 PM
Hi guys (but mostly gals I guess),
Here goes another update:

Since I've posted about my positive experiences with Ubiquinol significantly increasing my saliva,
some have messaged me asking if any ENT has confirmed my increase in saliva, or is it just my subjective feeling that I now have saliva? I have always claimed that if I can now make spit balls something objective is going on.

So now confirmation that Ubiquinol works (at least for me):
I went to a salivary gland specialist today to investigate my recurring parotid gland swelling after eating (yes, there is such a doctor that specializes specifically in salivary gland diseases!). He pressed on my salivary glands as others have done before him and lo and behold he exclaims:
"Your saliva flow is normal and so is the quality of your saliva. It's thin and clear"!  :D

Before I began Ubiquinol I had been to numerous doctors who had pressed (very hard!) on my glands and had told me I wasn't producing barely any saliva and that the little that was coming out was thick and mucus-like.

I'm always glad to have the opportunity to post something positive, as it's so rare for us to actually find treatments that work (and without any negative side effects)!  :) 



 
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: SunshineDaydream on October 18, 2016, 08:31:30 AM
I just received an email from luckyvitamin (.com) offering 10% off coq10 and ubiquinol products for the next 48 hours. The promo code is CCLVC1010. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more. I have been very happy with all of my luckyvitamin orders.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 18, 2016, 08:58:36 AM
For those who take 200mg/daily (regularly or for flare ups), do you take all at once, or two x 100mg doses? If the latter, do what time of day?

I'm hitting a flare up and need to up saliva output :(

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on October 18, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Hi Pete, I take the full dose at night before bed since that works for me,
but you may need to experiment a bit to find out what works for you.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 19, 2016, 01:30:51 PM
Thanks, Sharon!
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: irish on October 19, 2016, 10:04:50 PM
I had an appointment with my immunologist today and I asked him about the CoQ10. He said that it is made by the body so it is a normal substance. He didn't have much experience with it so he is interested to see if it helps decrease dryness. I was concerned about it mixing with all my other meds and he said no problem. He told me to just take it and see what happens.
 
I am going to try taking it also but need to find some first. I hope everyone will come back and start a thread and share their experiences so we can share it with our doctors. This way it will be a whole bunch of us and not just ourselves and a couple others Irish.



Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on October 20, 2016, 09:01:55 AM
Just make sure you try the Ubiquinol form of it Irish, as that one has specific studies
on its effectiveness for saliva increase. If you can't find it in your area you can always order it online.

I find it strange doctors question its role in saliva production when there have been very clear studies pointing precisely to this.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: irish on October 20, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
Thanks for the info. My doctor doesn't disbelieve the info I told him but he deal with so many really, really sick people that are on the big gun meds and have much more than Sjogrens and he has not given it other than for heart issues. He knows a lot about it but has not been around people taking it for reasons other than heart. I did not hear of it being given for anything but heart issues either.

The interesting things is that so many of these supplements are having more good effects than previously known about. Irish
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 21, 2016, 12:10:21 PM
Given that my brother and mother have complained about over-salivation (they both supplement with the "original" CoQ10 form ubiquinone), I'm thinking that I'm going to try ubiquinone, as everything I'm reading doesn't seem to point towards any significant difference between the two, other than cost. I've been reading up as much as I can about it over the past 24 hours, and I'm starting to believe the ubiquinol hype was generated by kickbacks from the company that currently holds a patent on it until 2021.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: irish on October 21, 2016, 01:46:53 PM
I bought a months supply of the CoQ10 just to try. I wanted to see if my body was able to change the original to the ubiquinol. It seems as our body ages it loses the ability to change the original to the Ubiquinol which our body metabolizes more easily.

The first thing I noticed when I opened the bottle is that the original smells pretty bad. I am almost afraid to take it cause I think my reflux will get aggravated. Just my take on it at this time. Irish
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 21, 2016, 05:14:31 PM
That's what gets me. It doesn't make sense about changing one way or the other. Ubiquinone and Ubiquinol are the same thing - one is oxidized, the other "reduced". When in the cell, they freely accept or pass on an electron and become the other (-one becomes -ol and vice versa), and the body consistently keeps balance between both.

I'll buy that one might be more bioavailable / absorb-able than the other, but I'm questioning how much so and where the cost-effectiveness lies with similar results with similar dosing, or similar results with a slight increase of ubiquinone dosing.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Nymph on October 22, 2016, 07:15:18 AM
I just wanted to follow up on this and say that the major benefit to me has been energy. It increased when starting ubiquinol, decreased when stopping, and increased again with restarting. I have not noticed any major salivation changes but mine is pretty well controlled on NAC except for flares so it would not be dramatic if it is helping that.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on October 22, 2016, 04:27:02 PM
Pete- which company holds the patent? I began with ubiquinol after reading that it showed better results for those with Sjogren's while the ubiquinone worked better for those without.
I'd be interested to hear your experience with the ubiquinone.

Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 22, 2016, 05:21:06 PM
The company is Kaneka Nutrients.

Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on October 22, 2016, 05:24:50 PM
Thanks Pete
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on October 22, 2016, 05:40:01 PM
Pete- From what I can tell Kaneka Nutrients only have a patent on bio-identical naturally fermented CoQ10 and there are another 3 Japanese suppliers.
http://www.nutraingredients.com/Regulation-Policy/Kaneka-sues-CoQ10-rivals
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 22, 2016, 06:25:25 PM
Hi Sharon,

They had the fermented patent first, then a few years later obtained the patent for Ubiquinol. In fact, as a marketing aid, Kaneka also owns "ubiquinol.org" - it all seems shady to me.

When I was looking into it, I searched Amazon for a variety of ubiquinol products, and every one mentioned trademarks/patents from Kaneka.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on October 23, 2016, 03:53:57 AM
Then they may have a monopoly on that market,
but as far as I'm concerned as a consumer, all that really matters is if the Ubiquinol
works or not. I've been very satisfied with it so far and actually had a salivary gland specialist "doubt" I had SJS since my saliva was "normal" when he checked me after being on Ubiquinol for some time.
I have not tried the Ubiquinone form but am interested if perhaps the same results might be achieved with it. I know it does help many non-sjoggies. 
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Pete0211 on October 23, 2016, 08:39:59 AM
I hear ya, Sharon.

I just don't see (can't say that I've looked deeply) anything that says that Ubiquinone doesn't help with sicca/Sjogren's - just things that say Ubiquinol does. As always, YMMV, yadda yadda, and everyone is different and will react differently. I figure I should at least give it a try and see what happens, and if it works, then I can spend the money I save for all the other highly priced dryness remedies that I buy.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sooki on February 12, 2017, 09:21:10 AM
I tried CoQ10 for awhile and it seemed like it may have been helping.  Then I bought the good Ubiquinol from Costco and it clearly made a difference in saliva.  The saliva ducts on the sides of my cheeks (parotid?) work again for the first time in years.  It may not be simple coincidence that I had a perfect dental exam recently as well.  I'm always trying stuff and always changing, so it's not proof, but I'm happy enough with it to keep on (ubiquinol isn't cheap).

Irish - I have read some reviews on Amazon of coQ10 that didn't smell good when they opened the bottle.  I think the consensus of reviewers was that it should be returned and not taken.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: irish on February 12, 2017, 12:07:30 PM
I had talked to my immunologist about taking this. He said CoQ10 is something that is made by the body and adding some can help some people with the different issues mentioned. I have not started it because I have so many health issues going on that need to be diagnosed and taken care of. I hate to start a new med and maybe screw things up. Also, I bought the tabs and they are so big that I will have trouble swallowing them and have to figure that out. Irish
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Sharon on February 12, 2017, 02:56:18 PM
Sooki- So good to hear the Ubiquinol is helping you!
Just goes to show you how important trying a good brand is.

Irish- The softgels of Ubiquinol I take are tiny, they're currently from Healthy Origins.
Again, it looks like all brands are a bit different.
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: Nymph on February 13, 2017, 03:21:05 AM
I just want to reiterate that I have not noticed more saliva with this supplement but it makes a difference in my energy level that even my parents could see. Now that I am teaching it is a necessity! Although I have to say on a teacher's salary when all you meds run out at once... 
$ :o $
Title: Re: Ubiquinol increases saliva
Post by: selavy59 on March 07, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
Did nothing for me. :-(