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Title: Chocolate
Post by: deeindiana on October 12, 2010, 02:34:12 PM
Just wondering how all of you feel about chocolate?

I used to CRAVE chocolates. It wasn't unusual for me to eat an entire pound of M&Ms in one sitting. Seriously! I was a complete and utter glutton about chocolate.

But for some reason, since my first "real" Sjogren's flare in March, I have completely lost my taste for chocolate. Just the thought of eating a candy bar sort of turns my stomach.

And even if I did still want it, I don't think I could eat it. My son gave me a box of my favorite gourmet truffles last week and the first piece seemed to stick in my mouth and was too hard to swallow. I gave the rest away.

Cookie and cakes (with or without chocolate) are almost impossible to eat anyway. So the only way I eat chocolate now is occasionally in ice cream: mint chocolate chip, cookies and cream, etc.

I'm just wondering if this has happened to anyone else? Do YOU still like chocolate? Can you swallow it down easily?
Deb
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Hypermobius on October 12, 2010, 02:49:58 PM
I too had major cravings for chocolate, but in my case I really have a huge hunch that it may be the systemic candidasis that I am almost certain I have (not diagnosed yet). I took this online candida questionnaire and got close to 200 when a score of 140 is considered to be an almost certainty that you have symptoms relating to it.

So, I've gone off of all sugar for about a week now.....and I have to tell you it's so tough passing the candy section, pastry section, or even the ice cream section at the super market these days hehe.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Terikjackson on October 12, 2010, 03:22:46 PM
Deb,

The only chocolate I eat now is called Xocai with Acai & Blueberry.  You can only buy it on the internet though.  My doctor insisted I start eating it because the ORAC score it so high on it and it is chocked full of antioxidants.  You can do a websearch for XOCAI to find the website. I get the "Power Squares"  Like I say it is 125.00 for 140 pieces and they recommend 3 a day but I don't always do that sometimes i only eat one or two a day so it usually last me for months. 

As far as taste goes though I have lots of days were nothing tastes right or smells right.  I too have trouble swallowing even my medications, which I have to get down someway.  Lots of sips of water!  My throat gets raw and it seems I have a constant cough these days.  I think it is all Sjogren's related.  I will talk to my doc next month when I see him.

HUGS
Teri
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Prairie Gal on October 12, 2010, 03:30:37 PM
I'm not a Chocoholic, but I usually eat an ounce of dark chocolate every day -- they keep saying it's good for your arteries/heart. Trader Joe's sells it in big bars and I break off a row to enjoy every morning and every evening.   :D
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Ohiocat on October 12, 2010, 03:41:54 PM
Still love chocolate, still eat chocolate.

Don't know what I would do without it - Isn't it one of the major food groups? ;D
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Scottietottie on October 12, 2010, 04:25:52 PM
Hi  :)

I love chocolate but I try very hard never to buy it for myself. If I get some as a present - well that's a different matter. Give it to me and I'll eat it and enjoy !!

Take care - Scottie  :)
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: sewandsew on October 12, 2010, 05:06:05 PM
Chocolate?  Love it.  BUT, brush your teeth after it.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: DesignerS on October 12, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
Glad to know I am not alone on this. I eat so much chocolate it is truly unbelievable.  However, when the mouth flares up and I have pain and no taste, it feels like a wad of rubber.

Can't be very good for us, for anyone to eat a lot of it :D  I don't know if the body craves it or the mouth! lol  If anyone has suggestions on how to break this daily habit, would Love to hear :-[

Designer
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: LizM on October 12, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
I adore chocolate, especially dark chocolate.  I eat some several times a week. 

Liz
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Patze on October 12, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
Like Designer, I eat chocolate like theres no tomorrow, or a day after ether! :D  And when the flare hits, it tastes like cardboard and the supply in the free world goes up again until I feel better!  Shucks, I need to buy stock in the Nestle/Mars companies! ;D

And I so agree Ohiocat, it's that hidden food group that they forgot to teach us in elementry school!  :)

Take care of yourselves -

Patze
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: deeindiana on October 12, 2010, 06:37:48 PM
So far, it sounds like I'm the only one who lost her love of chocolate when SS hit. Darn...
Deb
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Cheryl on October 12, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
I still love it, Dee
Cheryl
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Bopeep on October 12, 2010, 11:46:57 PM
Like Designer, I eat chocolate like theres no tomorrow, or a day after ether! :D  And when the flare hits, it tastes like cardboard and the supply in the free world goes up again until I feel better! 

DITTO also when a flare hits it tastes horrid, not having eaten cardboard, lol.

When I get the urge its no stopping me  ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Joe S. on October 13, 2010, 03:27:31 AM
I will have about 5-10 chips per day if I do not have enough fat from other sources. I prefer dark chocolate to milk chocolate.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: LizPetillo on October 13, 2010, 03:53:27 AM
Chocolate is on the no-no list for Sjogrens according to the Sjogrens Foundation information. 
It causes flairs.  We have halloween candy waiting for the trick or treaters.
Yep .. chocolate.  I don't dare touch it. 
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: newhorizons on October 13, 2010, 03:56:30 AM
DEB AND OTHERS, MY ONE LINER IF THIS ALL YOU HAVE TIME TO READ... I have converted to dark chocolate in small portion which is now suppose to be good for us! :)  

Now adjusted to eating 60% dark chocolate. purchase it in 3 lb bag at Sam's Wholesale in cooking section. Have learned to love them.
Have little plastic containers that I divide the chocolate into 2-3 portions and put on kitchen table with our nuts (almonds or walnuts).

Love hot teas, ginger, green, peppermint, chamiole, you name it... hot tea is my 'thing-ie'!! :o  Eat my little choco pieces 2 at a time with a nut and a good swig of hot tea after breakfast.  

This is after I have eaten, 51% Fiber One Cereal, nearest thing to cardboard one can ever consume and it be called a cereal.  Do top with fresh fruit or berries and skim milk.

My weight is continuing to slowly drop with cutting chocolate consumption and portion size; lost 25 lbs. in year. Exercise has decreased greatly though am still continuing to particpate at low level. 15bs more to go before facing the Duke doctors next May!! :-X  My promise to the 3 of them I would loose the 40 lbs. I had gained while on O2 24/7 for 2 yrs.

Now having pain from head to tips of toes in both joints and muscles...achy like flu. Ortho doc say yesterday at appt he felt if was Fibro flare... weather front moving in and to be in lows the next days in 50's and nights in 30's.  SO, Ended up with DepMedrol 40 mg steriod shot in R shoulder and R hip.  Will take 2-3 days to 'kick in' which he tells me every time he administers a shot!! :)

HAVE A GOOD DAY!!! ;D   Tomorrow, good day here to sit by the good warm fireplace and bird watch!! ;)

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: DesignerS on October 13, 2010, 06:17:13 AM
It sounds like chocolate is winning out ;)  I sure wish I loved dark chocolate instead of milk.
BoPeep, 5 to 10 chips? LOL  Oh my, I DO have a serious problem.
And Liz! what self control!  I envy you :-[  Keep up the good work.

Dove is just the best chocolate in my opinion:)

Designer
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: BonusMom on October 13, 2010, 08:20:48 AM
I, like New Horizons, have gone from eating a candy bar to having a taste of dark chocolate in an effort to lose weight.  I've always preferred the taste of dark chocolate vs milk chocolate, but I've craved the sugar in candy bars.  Not so much any more.  If there are a few M and M's thrown in some trail mix that's plenty of chocolate to satisfy my craving for something sweet.  Amazing what hitting the big 5-0 (as in fifty lb weight loss) does for the craving mentality!  Success never tasted so sweet!
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Billydude on October 13, 2010, 09:17:25 AM
I love chocolate but a past allergy testing showed that I was allergic to it.    Liz?   Is there a no-no list of foods?
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: deeindiana on October 13, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
Well, shoot! Everyone else seems fine with it. I really miss the psychological pleasure of eating chocolate (better than sex, drugs, and rock & roll) . But even the good stuff just balls up in my mouth and cloys in my throat. Sigh...
Deb
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Terikjackson on October 13, 2010, 11:37:55 AM
Sorry about posting a sales website I didn't realize it.  It is on the box of Chocolate I bought.  So just look up the XOCAI name and do some research on it.  It is a very healthy chocolate.  A good alternative to something that has a bad name.

Teri
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: bloodless on October 13, 2010, 12:21:27 PM
Milk, dark with or without caramel, nugget, peppermint....I LOVE CHOCOLATE!!! I cannot live without it. I could easily eat a pound of m&ms too. I make brownies and the only reason I don't eat the entire pan full is so I can say I didn't eat the entire thing. I never get enough chocolate and the longest I have been able to go without it is about three days and then I'm fiending like a heroin addict. Been like that my whole life. I haven't noticed any changes to my condition after eating it or any changes to the urge to eat it when my condition changes. Chocomaniac for life!
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: newhorizons on October 13, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
Bloodless, Are you one of those that sort your M&M and eat them by color?   ???

Just wondering... When I was sitting at my desk at school before retiring, I would sort them by color and save the red ones for the young Resource Teacher. Her break was at same time of day mine was!!!!    ::)

Joy
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Bucky on October 13, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
Ok - I've been watching this thread the last few days. . . while drooling (ha . . if I had any) for some chocolate.  Somebody - I won't name names so as not to leave anybody off - MADE me polish off what was left of my Hershey chocolate bar from my b-day in July because of this topic!!   ::)

Prior to going through the menopause, I would crave chocolate just before my period was due.  Now - I don't "crave" it, but will eat some if there is any around.

I found that with anything I eat since Sjogren's, that I have to take smaller mouth fulls.  Chew, drink something and swallow.  Couldn't get anything down without some sort of liquid to help it down.

Sorry Deb that you are having trouble with chocolate.  Maybe try a smaller piece along with something to drink.

NewJoy - you sort your M & M's by color?  Who has time?  Just pop those babies in your mouth!!  Variety is the spice of life!   ;D

Bucky

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: valene2009 on October 13, 2010, 04:25:40 PM
i love chocolate and dont seem to get flare ups from it... in fact i ate nothing but
fruits, veggies,lean turkey, chicken and nuts for almost 6 months.. i still had flares
and it didnt help my eyes one bit.  i seemed to feel better as a whole -like more energy
when working out , etc.. cleaner. but it didnt help my eyes or mouth and i still had my flares-
usually i think i get major flares when i am under a lot of stress...
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: LeoLady on October 14, 2010, 12:14:48 AM
OK - don't tell anybody, Joy.  I'm a closet M&M color sorter.  Probably an offshoot of my closet OCD.  I eat the brown ones first as they are my least favorite, then green, orange, blue and finally red.  No, I'm not crazy, just... particular, or is that peculiar?

Hugs,

LeoLady
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Meld256 on October 14, 2010, 01:16:27 AM
I'm jumping in after being gone for a few days;

1) yes, chocolate MUST be a food group :)

2) LeoLady, you area closet M & M sorter? LOL Me, too!

3) I certainly hope there's not a no-no food list, because I think with regard to chocolate I will definately disregard it.

4) Suppose even worse my "vices" are a square of good old Hershey's and a cup of coffee; also on no-no list, I guess.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Bucky on October 14, 2010, 06:26:29 AM
I have a question for you M & M sorters.  Why?  All of the colors taste the same . . it's not like jellybeans where each color is a different flavor.   So, why sort them?  Just close your eyes, grab a handful, pop them in your mouth . . . enjoy!!   ;D

I sure hope you sorters don't throw out any of the colors you don't like!!   ;)

Just curious . . . do you sorters also only eat one food at a time on your plate?  Example - eat all the potatoes, then all the corn, then the meat, etc., instead of putting a little bit of all of it on your fork at once?  I have a couple nieces (from the same family) that do this . . I can never understand this either.   ???

Bucky
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: BonusMom on October 14, 2010, 08:40:37 AM
After reading this thread yesterday, I broke down and enjoyed a bag of peanut M and M's. And no, I didn't sort them by color.  I just dumped them down the pie hole and savored the flavor.

Unfortunately, I was soon reminded why it was so easy to give up the chocolate that I swear I was eating since birth....the dreaded heartburn took over.  It's just not worth it-even with Nexium.  I little square of dark chocolate doesn't seem to turn my tummy on fire, but anything larger than that is out of the question. Drats!
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: LeoLady on October 15, 2010, 03:55:34 AM
Bucky:  I can't speak for any other "sorter" but in my case, I really do think it's related to my mild OCD.  To answer your question re: food, I would never scoop up all the foods on my plate in one forkful - but, neither do I eat all of any one thing at a time. 

I also never put 4 ice cubes in my drinks - I don't like the number 4, I do like uneven numbers.  I also have to have the TP on the roller coming off the bottom, not the top.  I always put my left sock and right shoe on first.  I have to sleep on the left side of the bed, I count while any water pitcher is being filled up (14 for the tea-maker and 12 for the humidifier), and my house should always be neat with everything in its place.  That one has been really difficult since the grandkids have moved in and the Sjogren's/Fibro hit.  I'm learning to live with a little clutter, but it still bothers me.

My sister is just like me.  Our theory is that it's from being raised by an alcoholic mom who thought her children should be, and for the most part were, perfect; i.e neat and clean, prim and proper, nothing but A's were acceptable (thank God we both have 140 IQ's), and "children should be seen and not heard."  That kind of upbringing does leave it's mark, but we have both learned to make "friends" with the OCD.  It just is what it is.  It's not all bad, we both have a wicked, sarcastic sense of humor and write really good poetry about our feelings. (confidence isn't a problem either.)  Ahem.

So, that's why I sort M&M's.  Ain't life a hoot?!?

Hugs,

LeoLady
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: slang on October 15, 2010, 07:10:58 AM
I had chocolate last night. It sounded good but it left a weird taste in my mouth. It talked to me all night and yet this morning! Wish I hadn't eaten it! :-\
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Bucky on October 15, 2010, 07:30:11 AM
LeoLady - thanks for the explanation on "sorting".  I can see where this would evolve from your upbringing.  Many times I don't think parents realize what kind of lifelong mark they leave on their kids as they are growing up by their expectations, example, rules, etc. that is part of the kids upbringing.

It's always interesting to see what each generation changes when they have a family of their own, from the way they were raised.  I know for myself, I do some things differently than my mother did.  Of course, she had four children and I only have one - makes a difference!  But, I vowed to myself when I had a family of my own that I would change things - do things differently.  So far, I've stayed true to that.  I've taken a "blend" of how I was raised and how I wanted our son raised, and how my husband and I relate (versus how my parents related to each other) and I think the two combined are a good mix.   ;D

If I had the chance for a "do over", there are a few things along the way I would have changed for myself - but, for the most part - life is good.   ;D

Another thing I find interesting . . . four siblings from the same parents . . . three siblings very similar in their adult life, the fourth sibling . . . as different as night and day!  The three of us are laid back, easy going, relaxed . . . the fourth one is picky, organized beyond normal, very particular about his things, can't relax, a workaholic . . the list goes on.  I don't know, maybe he got dropped on his head when he was a baby!  LOL

LeoLady - you should share some of your poetry with us on the social board.   :D

Oh, by the way, my TP roll is over the top.   ;D

Bucky
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: bloodless on October 15, 2010, 11:46:10 AM
I'm not a M&M sorter. I'm more of a up end the bag into my mouth sorta gal!!

I do however look for the candy that looks like a nut is in the middle in the valentine boxes! I try not to cheat and poke the bottom of the candy for a glimpse.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: quilt4fun on October 15, 2010, 12:46:33 PM
I'm also a chocolate lover!    I used to prefer milk, but now I'd rather have dark.  Dark is much better for you, it doesn't have as much milk fat.
 And get this-- I work in a candy store!!!!  People ask me what my favorite is and I answer, "Chocolate"
 I can't eat M&M's because of the artificial dye.  I have read many ingredients labels and talked to the boss -since many of the chocolates are manufactured on site, so I know which ones I can eat.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Ohiocat on October 15, 2010, 04:36:41 PM
HMM,  I like to sort the M&Ms also.  But in my case, I like to see how close to even the colors are.  (Did I get more reds this time, or browns, or what colors do I have the most of).  Then because my favorite colors are the green and brown ones.  I usually save a few of those to eat last.

Green and brown - the color of trees and nature for me.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: deeindiana on October 15, 2010, 05:43:11 PM
LOL! This topic has run amok like chocolate on a dashboard in August! I'd like to suggest that if anyone want to be sure that their post receives a lot of comments that they add the word "chocolate" to the subject title! LOL! I may be sad that I can't eat chocolate but all of you have certainly cheered me up!
Deb
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Kerrikins on October 15, 2010, 08:50:31 PM
Chocolate is definitely my treat of choice! My flares seem to be related to my hormones rather than what I eat(except a few Chinese dishes, ha) so thank goodness for that. I eat any and every kind of chocolate. As a special treat I'll buy an organic 85% dark choc bar and it will last a week or so. More often I pick up a king sized snickers and eat that. It's embarrassing but I eat about 2 of those a week. It's really weird because I mostly eat/cook healthy and from scratch otherwise. I think the snickers thing may be a real addiction that might need help, heh.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: season on October 15, 2010, 09:05:30 PM
It's loaded with caffeine and it keeps me awake at night but I do like chocolate. Anything chocolate. Because it keeps me awake and makes my heart race, I occasionally go for the chocolate early in the day.  My favorite is a really good brand of hot cocoa. Steaming hot and simply delicious.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: RobinBat on October 16, 2010, 09:08:45 AM
I love chocolate! Of course it is a major food group, did someone tell you otherwise? They lied to you! I will choose dark over light if I am picking but will not turn down a milk choc. if offered! The only chocolate I can not eat is those with gluten additives.

As for m&ms I am more of a dump in the mouth eater, but if just picking up one from a bowl will go for the blue first....no idea why...

As for the comment on swallowing, I too find I cannot eat anymore with out a drink as food just won't go down. Meat is the worst!

Have been away from the board awhile, rough few months. Had pneumonia(sp?) and shingles, My Mom died, then relapsed the pneumonia....weather changed and my joints went nuts! Have just restarted my shots,(was off humira/methotrexate for almost 3 months due to being ill) Dr. Changed to Embrel
Don't know if wishfull thinking but I think felt an improvement within 24 hours of first shot. Is this possible?

Ok, way off the topic, glad to be back, hope all are hanging tough.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Joe S. on October 18, 2010, 02:59:09 AM
RobinBat, Your post reminded me that if we made our own chocolate confections we could cover the supplements that help us in chocolate and make us feel much better. Black cherries are good for arthritis and gout, so Black cherries dipped in dark chocolate sounds good.

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Bucky on October 18, 2010, 06:05:39 AM
((Robin)) - sorry you've had such a rough time here lately.  My condolences on the death of your Mother. 

Wow, to have had pneumonia twice, plus shingles . . . that's a lot in a short amount of time.

Hopefully, things will settle down for you and you will feel better soon. 

Hang in there . . . .
Hugs,
Bucky