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Title: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Joe S. on September 13, 2010, 03:14:08 PM
FYI Super bug:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20100913/us-med-superbug-gene/
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: sleeeepy on September 13, 2010, 03:21:41 PM
Hi Joe, all I can say is that is frightening !!!!!!


Mary
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: inga on September 13, 2010, 03:36:39 PM
This is NOT a BUG.

It is a gene segment, spread hand to mouth, that can make many if not most bacteria, drug resistant.

This is WAY more significant than most people know.

Think of a crime scene....DNA.....it isn't alive....you can't kill IT.  This is a mutation that is spread hand to mouth.....as a piece of genetic material that finds its way into bacteria...and if it is lucky and you are not....well, you are not.

Even if you can kill the germ it modifies...the plasmid is still ciruclating to infect a new kind of bacteria....it spreads from bacteria to bacteria. 

Actually, you don't even need to catch a disease from some one who has an NDM-1 infection, altho that is one way to get it.....

you can just catch the gene, and if it gets into a bacterium in your body and it is a vital bacteria....it could conceiveably mutate inside you...conceivably....it did, in some poor souls in India and Pakistan. 

Right now, all the cases have ties to Asia....not for long, since they have been depositing their DNA all over the place.....toilets, door handles, escaltors, airplanes, airports, dare we say, burgers?  The piece of NDM 1 you get at the airport, may get washed away in water, then again, it could stick to the seat of your pants, and get into your next wipe....sorry to be so crude.  Your benign deposit could be the next supergerm.  Not to mention TB....

Then there is Pakistan....recent floods....ugh....can not even think about it.  Millions living in swill...and aid workers coming in and going home.....

This is not ONE GERM, or TWO GERMS....This is a plasmid or gene that is contagious.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Joe S. on September 13, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
Inga, remember to breathe.

The most germ encrusted surfaces you have are your computer keyboard, mouse and pad.

There has to be a method to remove it. It may be a chemical compound that attaches to these enzymes and rips them apart. It may be a form for resonate chemistry that breaks it down. (If you do not understand what I am talking about, please look it up or ask questions.)

I hope that there are scientist somewhere that are working on this problem.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: inga on September 13, 2010, 04:04:31 PM
This may not play for every one.  I subscribe to this website so it may not open.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/728039
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Pegasus47 on September 13, 2010, 04:07:01 PM
I am going to get my flu shot now.

Hope to prevent infections.  Take lots of Vit. D- helps

Pegasus
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: inga on September 13, 2010, 04:21:11 PM
Oh, I see they want YOU to sign up too.  I needed my professional credentials...sorry.  I am not sure if you can google medscape with NDM-1 and get this video.

People do not understand antibiotic resistance, let alone, a hunk of DNA that travels on hand to mouth, that can change a large number of bacteria to be permanently drug resistant to ALL antibotics except tigecycline and colistin one of which is toxic to the kidney. 

It is gram negative, BTW.  These are hospital acquired infections that have now exposed every one to having this happen from germs that are far more frequently encountered.

This is ground breaking science.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: flutterfly on January 19, 2011, 10:09:04 AM
hey joey...aka ^the brain^!

all i gotta say 'bout that is...this germ aware freaky flutterfly just...shat a lil'!

good golly can all the plane peeps just screen travelin' peeps 4 germs b4 they fly 'round???!!!

luva ya kid~o!!!   :-*

~*flutterfly...there's just not 'nuff purell in the world ta make me feel better 'bout steppin in all the docs & hospitals i do!!!*~
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: inga on January 19, 2011, 04:57:36 PM
Flutterfly, the folks that screen passengers cant manage to find bombs in underwear.....

I don't think they can screen for a plasmid that makes bacteria resistant.

Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: irish on January 19, 2011, 05:59:09 PM
You know, this could be a new "germ warfare" event going on here. Although, with all the tragedy in the world, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes and fire, I doubt if there is much more that can surprise us. Whatever the heck this new genetic code thing is there will probably be something else just as bad or worse.

I would think that the scientists are working on this. I have read about it off and on for a year it seems. We just have to live until we die. That is what they did back in the old times. I don't want to die any sooner than I have to, but there isn't much we can do about some of this stuff. We can, however, wash our hands and use your heads. That is about it. Maybe lock ourselves up in a room without windows, but the wind would blow the bugs in.

With that cheery thought I will continue to read through the posts. What we all can do is smile. Make our time on earth worthwhile. Irish ;D
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: CAT1962 on January 19, 2011, 06:00:57 PM
Small factoid:

I cringe when I see kids/adults at the movies wearing shorts, dresses...there is more fecal bacteria on a movie theater seat than on your own  toilet...just a little trivia... :P
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Sha on January 19, 2011, 10:52:49 PM
UHHHHHHGGGGGGGNESS!!! :o

Cat~ come on....now I am really starting to think....Yucky!! But then again...we work at school so what are we thinkin anyway...LOL :D

Joe~ Scary to say the least!!!! Keep us up to date, would ya!!

Sha
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Joe S. on January 20, 2011, 05:25:08 AM
I believe that this was a link that was forwarded to me. I do not remember who sent it.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: dainbramage on January 20, 2011, 06:05:17 AM
I have worked in a hospital for 23 years plus. There is so much that the public just doesn't understand. Resistant bacteria due to overuse of antibiotics (drug resistant, bacterias evolve and mutate and change).  Also, people are carriers of certain bacterias and when we (low immunities) get something, these bacterias want to come out and play, it is very bad.  I sound like my mother...Please Wash Your Hands With Soap And Water and sing Happy Birthday 2 times. This is what JACHO watches us do in the hospital. (When we wear gloves and remove them from patient contact, we foam.) Ladies your purses are the worst, get them off the floors. Do not put them on the floors of the bathrooms, yuck.
Sorry, just had JACHO come visit...influenza A is here again so be careful.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: tired of it on January 20, 2011, 07:22:50 AM
I;m going to live ina bubble,, blame mothers and doctors for two things,, a mom that demands antibiotics for a kid with a cold,, and doctors for giving them,, about the last one wehave is vanco,, and even that is being comprimised, maybe we live to clean,,
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: irish on January 20, 2011, 12:43:34 PM
Oh man, don't get me started on the purses. I always hang mine up in the public restrooms and if there is no hook I have been known to hang it around my neck from the front. I can't stand those restrooms. Sometimes the floors are wet around the stools. Yuck.

When I get home I will take my shoes off in the garage and then get paper towels and antibacterial soap to wash off my soles of shoes.

I have one bar stool(at home, not at the bar) that I place my purse on. I have a plastic bag covering the seat and that is where I set my purse. I frequently take the antibacterial wipes ( the stronger ones for cleaning) and wipe off my purse. I am so "anal" about bacteria.

I don't have to shave my legs much at my age, but I always make sure to shave them a few days before I go to the doctor or hospital. This way the skin has healed and there isn't an open opportunity for infection. Also, I had trouble with toe nails and had to cut aggressively most of the time. I always kept bandaides on the toes. The days I went to the doc I always made sure to have them covered with antibacterial cream. When we are high risk for infection any little skin nick that we are aware of needs to be covered in high risk places. That is my personal opinion.

I guess I am OCD about this. I feel that the main opportunity for infection is bathtowels, hand towels and washclothes. Also, the dishcloth and cleaning sponges, etc are another source of bacterial infestation. It is good to clean sink often and change dishclothes often. Also, sinks and bathtubs, toilets are another source of bacterial growth. Countertops also need to be wiped frequently.

The rest of the house needs to be keep clean as far as I am concerned, but who am I to throw stones cause mine is probably right up there with the top 10 messed up houses. We all do the best we can with the energy that we are allotted. May we all have the sanity to endure this stuff. Irish ;D
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: dainbramage on January 20, 2011, 01:13:06 PM
Irish,
I hate shaving my legs, my poor husband.
I wash my towels and sheets in my washer under deep clean and sanitized.
We do need bacteria in our lives, but be careful of hand sanitizer it gets rid of the good bacteria as well as the bad.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: irish on January 20, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
I use liquid bleach on all my towels including the load of kitchen towels.

Also, I just thought of this from something I learned a long time ago. If you shave your legs "downhill" you will be less apt to get irritated hair follicles.

Also, I started using the Barbasol spray can of shaving cream for shaving. It makes for such soft smooth skin with less irritations. We used the shaving cream in the nursing home I worked in. It is great for washing up areas that need attention. Example: washing under the breast to prevent the fungal infections as it disinfects besides softening. Also works good for any other area that gets skin irritations. THe thing to remember is to make sure to rinse it off well. Irish ;D
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: dainbramage on January 20, 2011, 01:19:42 PM
I CAN SEE MY HUSBAND WONDERING WHY I AM WASHING MY BREAST WITH SHAVING CREAM. :D
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: irish on January 20, 2011, 05:50:33 PM
dainbramage, You are causing me to laugh so hard I almost wet my pants. Irish ;D
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Sooki on January 20, 2011, 05:56:19 PM
other sources of germs: doorknobs and money.  best thing, don't put hands in mouth, eyes, nose without the happy birthday thing first.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Sha on January 20, 2011, 07:04:52 PM
About antibiotics being prescribed too much....I took my daughter in for a sore throat and fever to make sure it wasn't strep and her pediatrician said no antibiotic was needed (she is very good at only prescribing it when needed and i feel the same)!

When we were leaving, she told me thanks, I said for what....she replied, "for understanding why antibiotics shouldn't always be used!" I guess there are a lot of parents, she said, who throw a fit about going to a docs office, paying a copay or for the full appointment cuz no insurance, and being told NO ANTIBIOTIC NEEDED doesn't register very well....I betcha they would think differently after reading joe's link :o

Sha
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: sewandsew on January 20, 2011, 08:25:28 PM
Another germ collector is the TV remote in hotel rooms.  Take a wipe to it before use.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Joe S. on January 20, 2011, 08:28:28 PM
One of the morning shows, if I remember correctly, said your keyboard and mouse are very germy.
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: dainbramage on January 21, 2011, 04:56:53 AM
Just to warn everyone....YOUR CELL PHONE IS NASTY TOO...Watch the people who talk all the time and go into the bathrooms.........YUCK
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: irish on January 21, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
Sit in a hospital waiting room sometime and just watch people. Watch what they do with their hands. Also, the bathrooms, magazines, chairs we sit on, etc. Makes one really become paranoid about bacteria.

I try hard to keep my house in good order bacteria wise, but I know that it is really a no win situation. The good thing is that if we are really careful and washing hands, washing bottoms of shoes and using common sense we can help cut down on the bacteria we bring back into our homes. We need our homes to be just our own germs if possible.

Just think of shopping in Walmart and toughing all the clothes,etc. The other thing is the child care issues. Now days we have to be on our guard all the time. When you think of it I don't know why the death rate from infections isn't higher than it is.

Did you ever see Mike Rowe from the TV show "Dirty Jobs" give his little speel on what he does when he gets to a motel room??? He takes the phone and throws it in a corner and then he folds up the bedspread outside wrapped to the inside and throws it in another corner. He says that he can't stand the germs of all those people. Sort of funny when you see him working in a sewer or on some job without a face mask. Irish ;D
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: flutterfly on January 21, 2011, 07:32:20 PM
 :o  irish just made me think of a time when i was @ docs office & i watched a lil' kid pick up magazine after coughin' so hard i thought...
oh yeh thats WHOOPIN' COUGH (probably wasn't BUT cough was that bad) his mama & him left & ol' man picks up SAID magazine & ummmm...started flippin' through pages by lickin' finners ta get maximum page turnage & all i thought was...
whatever that lil'kid & ol'guy gotts...
so does the unknowin' soul who picks up SAID magazine NEXT!

now i bring my own entertainment!
(my DSIXL!)

~*flutterfly...wishin' i was the 1 ta market purell! daugumnit!*~
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Joe S. on January 22, 2011, 05:27:31 AM
What can you do with it besides play games and create animations?
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: flutterfly on January 22, 2011, 08:30:34 AM
 :P  well joey...u can POST ta u all on it!

thats what i'm doin' right now 'cause hubbs is watchin' live coverage of NASCAR on laptop in the chair in front of COMPUTER!
so leaves me no choose but ta do it on dsixl! :P

~*flutterfly...yup i might actually BE 12!*~
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: Sooki on January 22, 2011, 11:22:46 AM
Reminds me of that novel Little Brother where the high-school hacker brings down the DHS using an XBox network....  (sorry off-topic)
Title: Re: New drug-resistant superbugs found in 3 states
Post by: flutterfly on January 22, 2011, 12:29:00 PM
 ※OH NOES※... i promise not ta do THAT!  ;D

k...back ta topic...tehehe!
made me laugh tho!

~*flutterfly...gonna wait on world domination! ('least 'til my joints wanna work!)*~